What actually happens when you plug in a USB device? (2007)

https://www.technovelty.org/linux/what-actually-happens-when-you-plug-in-a-usb-device.html

by mafuyu • 12 years ago

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pje• 12 years ago

I wonder how much of this applies to Darwin systems.

duskwuff• 12 years ago

Basically none of it, beyond the information in the "USB overview" section and a few scattered sentences elsewhere. This article is talking about the Linux USB stack in particular, not USB in general.

swetland• 12 years ago

Oddly (for how detailed it is in other places) this skips the actual wire protocol side of enumeration -- reset device, read descriptors, assign address, etc.

Enumeration is an interesting process -- newly reset devices accept transfers to address zero, until the host assigns a non-zero addres. Then the next device (if their are additional devices detected on a hub, or if the just-enumerated device is a hub with devices below it) can be enumerated (initially responding at 0 after reset), walking the entire tree of hubs and devices (and revisiting it as necessary when hubs report connections and disconnections).

delsarto2• 12 years ago

(original author here)

Yeah, it was done after I was asked to run a short course on writing drivers, so the focus was on understanding that sort of layer.

But you want to know how old this is? I actually used the word "palmtop" :)

kabdib• 12 years ago

... and then, on Windows, you get to the Plug-and-Play stack, and horrible, eldritch things happen, many of which involve registry entries.

Also, when I found that "SetupApi" was The Way you got to USB devices on Windows, I wanted to strangle somebody.

derefr• 12 years ago

many of which involve registry entries

You say this like it's a Windows-specific thing. In Linux, a lot of the USB support is exposed through /sys—pretty much the same idea.

gioele• 12 years ago

Aren't, in this case, the window registry entries involved are more similar to udev rules?

Gorkys• 12 years ago

Ok, I', not that young but WTF is a "palmtop" and when did such a thing exist?

esrauch• 12 years ago

Palmtop is typically used interchangeably with PDA.

hayksaakian• 12 years ago

like "lap top" but it goes on top of the palm of your hand (at least that's my revisionist version)

delsarto2• 12 years ago

When I wrote this, I'm not sure if the iPhone had been released; certainly at that point if you were carrying around something computer-like in your (large :) pocket (more powerful than a PalmPilot) it was something like a Jornada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jornada_(PDA)

This sort of form-factor came directly out of things calld "palmtop pc's" like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_95LX

tesseract• 12 years ago

To me "palmtop" strongly connotes something handheld, with a clamshell or a slide-out keyboard, and running a desktop-style OS. That HP 95LX is a good example; the OQO was a more recent one (2005 ish?).

A device with a similar form factor but running a mobile OS would have been called a "MID" (mobile internet device) or possibly a tablet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet for example.

dTal• 12 years ago

How about an IBM PC-110?

http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm

porsupah• 12 years ago

On a related note: back in a previous, embedded incarnation, I was once tasked with writing a USB driver. Not the kind that might first come to mind - this was for the /device/, for which documentation is rather less easily found. With the aid of this resource (no, no spam), I was able to make our gadget come up as a fully compliant composite HID/microphone device.

http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb1.shtml

tcas• 12 years ago

That is a great link. Also USB Made Simple is good addition to that.

It's pretty amazing that the protocol works in the first place. It's a multi-driver, differential bus with 3 valid states (not including bus arbitration). It does all sorts of dirty things, like in order to identify a device as a USB1.0 or USB1.1 device, a resistor is either applied to D- or D+. In order to determine if the host/device should switch to USB2.0 mode, the host computer will drive both lines to low (SE0) and the device will send high current "chirps" back to the host. Essentially having multiple hosts driving the line at the same time.

http://www.usbmadesimple.co.uk/

deciplex• 12 years ago

The first thing that happens when you plug in a USB device is you sigh in relief that the thing finally went in, on the third attempt.

Then all this other stuff happens.

roevhat• 12 years ago

So true :-)

teh_klev• 12 years ago

No you have to observe the plug first, then it'll go in:

http://imgur.com/ZG4L1nc

officialjunk• 12 years ago

Related is this talk on reverse engineering USB devices from 28c3: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2011/28c3-4847-en-revers...

What actually happens when you plug in a USB device? (2007)

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