Show HN: Brix for Bootstrap

by ko_hol • 12 years ago

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rizz0• 12 years ago

You should probably have someone proofread the English on your site.

fwr• 12 years ago

There's something really distinctive about the kind of English that Polish people (especially the ones confident in their language skills) use in writing, it's really easy to tell.

lukasm• 12 years ago

It's easy to spot a native "slavic" speaker. There is no concept of definite article, so they tend to skip it.

planetjones3• 12 years ago

I was going to criticize you for being overly critical but then I looked through the English and this is a real problem. My advice would be to get the English proofread as some people may suspect the final product is associated with the English on the landing page (it doesn't look like it is, but it may give the wrong expression). Examples:

"we gain more" --> "we gained more"

"more than 15 years I design apps" --> "more than 15 years I have designed apps"

"more than less" --> "more or less"

"It's something worth to be proud of" --> "It's something to be proud of"

NicoJuicy• 12 years ago

"more than 15 years I have designed apps" => I have designed apps for over 15 years. ;-)

gadders4• 12 years ago

I was going to say this. The bits I've read are understandable, they're just not 100% correct.

gadders4• 12 years ago

In the interests of giving back, and not being a coder, please find below my quick and dirty re-write of the CEO's intro. Note that this has not been copy-hacked or made more sales-y, I've just tried to fix the minor issues with the English. Hope it helps!

We’ve created brix.io because we want to share our success with you. Our success is your success. Join us.

How in less than a year we gained more than 12.000 customers from all over the world.

My name is Lukasz Holeczek and I am the CEO of BootstrapMaster.com & Brix.io. I love design, that’s why for more than 15 years I have designed apps, interfaces and web pages. But suddenly all this changed when I discovered the Bootstrap framework. Both interfaces and web sites became easier and more user friendly each time I start the design process. That was the origin of BootstrapMaster.com, our design studio, specialising in Bootstrap interfaces. Now we’re one of the market leaders, having more than 12,000 customers and almost 100k people who use our free templates. What does it mean? That more or less millions of people use our solutions every day. It’s something we're very proud of.

Among our customers you will find small companies and startups, as well as big guys from Silicon Valley and from the Fortune 500 list. To ensure the best service for them and efficient design for us, we need appropriate tools. That’s why we decided to create our own app, which could be used by our team on a day to day basis. And suddenly one of us asked, why not to share it with all of you? So here it is, a complete tool which implements our experience & know-how in the design of sexy interfaces and web pages.

Brix.io helps us and also helps you to create better projects, making them faster and easier than ever before. All the projects can be mastered by you and/or your team. The results of your work can be instantly presented to your customers. And at the same time, you’re just one step closer to creating the world’s sexiest projects.

doque• 12 years ago

I can't login with my credentials after confirming my email (confirmation hash: 160caba46334a76427bbfc0d127542f8), so that's kind of a show stopper.

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Please send me message with your brix.io login. Our mail support@brix.io, we will check what's wrong.

noir_lord2• 12 years ago

This is an incredible amount of work, I know Bootstrap well enough (plus I use a 24 col grid with 16px margins for everything) that it wouldn't be much use to me.

Incredibly well executed though :).

dhruvbhatia• 12 years ago

Can't you modify the number of grid columns in Bootstrap? I use Foundation 5, and there is an option within settings.scss which allows you to change the default 12 column grid, eg:

  $total-columns: 24;

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

We will add support to Foundation 5 ASAP

noir_lord2• 12 years ago

I think (maybe) you misunderstood, I do use Bootstrap with a 24 column grid as I compile it myself with less (I also change a bunch of other stuff to improve table appearance etc).

jwblackwell• 12 years ago

Not really quite sure how this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9ksnlob416zloe/Screenshot%202014-...

translates to this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s48mpnee9imy5qv/Screenshot%202014-...

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Weird, we will check this.

planetjones3• 12 years ago

I just started the free trial and it seems to be a very promising implementation - certainly not trivial to get something usable like this. My problem is the pricing model. The only option is $29 per month for unlimited users, etc. That's too much for someone like me who just "dabbles" in Bootstrap websites (non commercial). I would happily a smaller single user free, but could not justify that much for something I would use on an ad hoc basis.

hpritch5• 12 years ago

Read the fine print. ;)

piran• 12 years ago

Highlight the pricing page to see more hidden pricing.

I guess they at one time wanted 29/month for 1 user...

wx196• 12 years ago

GitHub owned https://www.easel.io/ is the best alternative for me now. Your service looks promising, but has strange pricing policy. Do you plan limited free plan?

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

I think that Limited free plan is good idea. I need to talk about this with my co-founders.

WorldWideWayne2• 12 years ago

What ever happened to software that didn't cost me a monthly fee?

I thought web apps were cheaper to build and easier to maintain, but the savings don't seem to be passed onto the consumer.

highace• 12 years ago

But why charge $59 one-off when they can charge $29/month ($348/year)!?!?!

I hate it too. Especially for relatively simple utility apps like this that don't really provide a lot of ongoing service apart from hosting the app.

mbarrett• 12 years ago

as an 'early access' price, is this considered a discounted rate with plans to increase later?

A few questions. Did they do any cost/value testing with potential customers? Who is it for? customers who do this every week or every 5-6 months. The price suggest the first.

gdilla• 12 years ago

But web apps also enabled subscription/SaaS models. Before you used to have to pay for upgrades. Which was/is ok, but web apps are always the current version and most up to date. So they are maintaining and extending it at all times.

mattront2• 12 years ago

SaaS model often doesn't make sense for users. Why do you need software in the cloud when working with local files directly would be much better?

That's why we sell Pinegrow Web Designer (http://pinegrow.com - I'm the author) as a normal desktop app. It has full support for Bootstrap, Foundation and plain HTML.

WorldWideWayne2• 12 years ago

Wow, this is awesome. Exactly what I was looking for.

caidan• 12 years ago

This does actually look pretty cool, and I too am a fan of local app+1 time payment.

mahesh_gkumar2• 12 years ago

It bothers me when I see statements like '10x faster' ...10x faster than what? Hand coding? Using some other library?

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Hand coding.

mahesh_gkumar2• 12 years ago

Then IMO, it should say that on your site :) and some reasonable explanation on how you landed on that number.

yesimahuman2• 12 years ago

Looks nice! I'm one of the creators of Jetstrap, and this is definitely really cool. Best of luck, it's an interesting market.

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Jetstrap is awesome tool, maybe we can talk more about this market?

yesimahuman2• 12 years ago

Sure, feel free to email me whenever. Email is in my profile!

bergerjac• 12 years ago

label your pricing plans based on customer segments. example: Solo | Dev Shop | Enterprise

(can't think of a better label instead of "Enterprise")

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

It's good idea, thanks.

thekevan• 12 years ago

I have yet to see one of these Bootstrap-centric editors that is worth a monthly fee. Bootstrap is so well laid out and so well documented that I can't see many instances where this would that much of a time saver or worth the premium. Presumably a shop that is churning out basic site after basic site may benefit from the ease of use but I can't imagine that is a big market.

mattront2• 12 years ago

You should try http://pinegrow.com (I'm the author). It's a downloadable desktop app sold for $50 (no monthly fee).

medius• 12 years ago

It's the same for me. Bootstrap is so easy to build upon that it's much easier to just code it up than bang my head against another tool. I hardly need to write any CSS besides the minor customization of colors/fonts.

Maybe it's useful for people selling templates for a living, but they will most likely hit the limits of the tool pretty quickly (if they want to up their game).

I'm curious. What kind of users currently use this? Are they devs, marketing people or someone else?

will_work4tears• 12 years ago

I thought this was related to Mozilla's Brick[0] and got more excited than I should have.

Still, looks nice though!

[0] http://mozilla.github.io/brick/

mendelk• 12 years ago

Perhaps not as nice, but there's also Bootply[0]

[0] http://www.bootply.com/

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Yes we know bootply it's great.

ww520• 12 years ago

This is very cool. It's nice to have a tool palette for the set of controls ready to be placed on the page.

Congrat on the great work.

givan• 12 years ago

Some constructive criticism, is very unintuitive, there are no explanation steps or visual tutorial, also the starting template is too simple just a hello text a more advanced starting template would give more info on how it works, I tried dragging some elements but I got lost and I ended up with http://imgur.com/haRtVXS

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

Thanks for yor feedback, we will add templates to brix

ForHackernews• 12 years ago

Hahaha, I love this image: http://brix.io/welcome/assets/img/lh.png

It's the most hipster thing I've ever seen. Was that intentional?

ko_hol12• 12 years ago

No it's my normal look :)

joyeuse6701• 12 years ago

Poles...poles everywhere =p

kolev• 12 years ago

$29/mo is simply outrageous!

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