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by arihelgason • 17 years ago

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noamsml3• 17 years ago

The article makes those guys' cause sound waaay more legitimate than it really is. If their homepage and articles are to be believed, it seems like their real cause is to stop exploit publication so that only the "real" hackers will know how to breach machines. They're basically children that are whining because someone took away their favorite toy. Paying them any attention does us a disservice.

Also, the analogy is faulty. Trying to stop exploit publication so that we won't need to buy security products is like trying to stop us from knowing about germs so we won't need to buy antibiotics.

tsally2• 17 years ago

I agree with most of what you say, but it's important to remember that antibiotics actually work. Antivirus is pretty much on the same level as leaches and bleeding, if we want to keep going with the medical analogy. In fact, I don't think anti-sec is angry about the fact that AV exists, just that they think talentless people make millions off of selling a bad product (via fear and misinformation).

John Viega (worked on McAfee's AV for many years) has written plenty about why AV is so bad. His most recent book, The Myths of Security is a decent read, but probably not work paying more than $10 dollars for.

noamsml3• 17 years ago

They also rail against firewalls, though, which do work.

Also, antivirii may be a poor solution, but they don't do nothing; the antibiotic analogy is apt because they are not a preventative solution, and because they don't work on everything (you can't, for example, use antibiotics against the flu), BUT they can help every once in awhile.

Periodic• 17 years ago

Hacker "wars" have been going on for a long time. Within that community there is a lot of status and class battles going on. Anti-sec is just another one of these. It's a group that's trying to look cool with high-profile hacks, and veil themselves in secrecy so as to elevate themselves above others.

They're probably little different other than their defacement banners.

omail• 17 years ago

Earlier discussion on this event:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=698744

tylermenezes• 17 years ago

"posted within the last 8 or 9 hours, some with instructions on how to hack ImageShack"

WHAT?

noamsml3• 17 years ago

I know, doesn't that sort of defeat the point?

Kadin2• 17 years ago

So, let me get this straight; "anti-sec" is an anti-full-disclosure group, who practice ... full disclosure.

Got it.

mindslight• 17 years ago

If the anti-sec group is for keeping exploits private, won't this _increase_ demand for add-on security band-aids like firewalls and virus scanners? More undisclosed vulnerabilities means one should increase the layers of security solutions for less chance of all of them being privately exploitable at any given time.

.. Or are they implying that script kiddies are the only problem, and the el8 crackers can never be stopped, so don't even try? (but don't worry, they have 'ethics' !)

(side note: "And who knows what new crimes the hackers will dream up next?". The actual question is what new crimes will the government will dream up next! Silly lawlyers.)

Bjoern• 17 years ago

More information about Anti-sec:

http://romeo.copyandpaste.info/

cookiecaper• 17 years ago

The weird thing is that full disclosure is not really a money grab. It's about compelling vendors to patch their products so that we don't have millions and millions of machines with an exploitable vulnerability.

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