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By selling their services to others. Musicians can sell live performances. Authors can ghost write, edit, etc. This isn't a big leap of imagination.

Being the defacto windowing system for the most popular operating system family is a great success.

And if you believe Windows is the most popular OS family, then being the defacto windowing system for the second most popular OS family is still a great success.

The title mislead me. I thought he was going to argue that Google Wave is like X-Windows. He seems to be saying Google Wave can be used as the transport layer for a display service. There does not appear to be any reason why it can't be X11 on top of Google Wave other than the insane latency requirement.

EDIT: He seems to be more keen on replacing X11. I think a protocol which works with X would be better.

I'm not sure why they decided the display should be the server and the programs be the clients. It might be because the other way around is to have one client, the display, access many servers, the programs. That seems even less right to me. (On the other hand, that would make it easier to let a friend over the network look into one of your windows.)

Commercially speaking, X11 was a great success. It is the de facto windowing system for UNIX and UNIX-like systems despite all of the horrors it brings.

This article is difficult to understand because it is written as a flamebait rather than an objective critique.

Here is what I understand so far. His primary point is that for a FOSS project it is not easy to have it economically self-sustainable. I believe he is almost correct on this point and counter arguments exist elsewhere in this thread and on the internet. As for whether FOSS is useful or not or how to solve the problem described, he gives no suggestion. However, he does take many cheap shots at RMS and FOSS supporters.

Anyhow, my counterpoint, which I mentioned elsewhere in the thread, is the contribution of FOSS is beyond direct monetary compensation. For organizations FOSS provides cheap, commoditized off-the-shelf parts for internal software projects. For consumers, FOSS allows independence from software producers and system lock-ins. These benefits are real in economic terms and can not simply be waved away.

I am also a Linux user and have a few questions.

> there is no sensitive data to steal

What would I use this for? Is it simply a system to propagate programs to users? (Collaborative software development?) Will my data be on the WikiOS or on my hard drive?

> there is low motivation to vandalize (whereas some wikipedia articles are highly controversial)

Motivation can not be predicted in advance. If I make a program, could not a competitor add a change that "accidentally" introduces a security hole?

> sensitive portions of the OS require moderators approval in order to be modified

What would you define as sensitive?

> We are also working to implement code access security systems to address this issue.

What is your planned security model?

I like the fact that its is sandboxed from the host. Can a program on the WikiOS interact with host programs and if so, to what degree?

The word on the street is 4chan was being hit by a SYN attack. The ACKs were directed to various ISPs, one of whom was AT&T, who all blocked 4chan in response.

The full DSLReports thread is at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22769947 . In a later post apeface, an AT&T employee, wrote:

"Well, I didn't see 207.126.64.182 or 207.126.64.181 in any block lists in the uverse routers , but that isn't to say they aren't blocked on the backbone someplace. We obviously aren't blocking the entire site or any particular link due to content because I can still access everything else but the links using the IP's above. If we where going to block a site, it wouldn't normally just be bits and parts, it would be all of it."

EDIT: apeface confirms AT&T has img.4chan.org blocked at the backbone.

I count 16,

Chinese citizenship: Wong Kwong Yu, Zhang Li, Zhang Jindong, Chu Mang Yee, Zhang Cheng Fei, Guo Guangchang, Liu Yongxing, Xu Jiayin, Liu Yonghao, Lu Guanqiu, William Ding, Zong Qinghou, Li Wei, Song Weiping, Liang Wengen, Chen Fashu

Hong Kong: Li Sze Lim

Australia: Shi Zhengrong

USA: Roger Wang

Nineteen if you count these other guys. All reside in China.

Interestingly enough, this list does not include the people listed at the bottom of the article: Hu Haifeng, Winston Wen Yunsong, Jiang Mianheng, Li Xiaopeng, and Levin Zhu.