GPGTools – OpenPGP Tools for Apple OS X

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by rosser • 13 years ago

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hackerboos3• 13 years ago

Great tool but it's annoying how it messes with homebrew.

Aloisius2• 13 years ago

Does it? I haven't noticed any problems.

hackerboos3• 13 years ago

Run `brew doctor` after installing.

lukele4• 13 years ago

This should be no longer the case from version MacGPG2 2.0.19 upwards.

olorton• 13 years ago

I'm still getting the warning.

Latest MacGPG2 & Homebrew.

vsviridov2• 13 years ago

Finally, with Lion support... Although I've since switched to Thunderbird/Enigmail, which works with older version just fine..

gnaffle3• 13 years ago

I did that, unfortunately the search feature in Thunderbird is just terrible compared to Mail.app (maybe there is a plugin I don't know about?)

kgo• 13 years ago

If you're actually trying to encrypt email, you probably don't want your mail app building a search index in plain text.

vsviridov2• 13 years ago

Yeah, it's a bit weird, but I usually just click "Display as List" on search results pane and then it becomes more usable...

tunesmith• 13 years ago

What's the best way to ensure faster turnaround when a new OS X version comes out? Is the constraint money, or is it more that they need more developers?

vegardx• 13 years ago

I used GPGTools before Mountain Lion and was very sad when the update to Mountain Lion broke it, and if I recall correctly it was because Apple more or less totally redid Mail.app and sandboxed it in a way that made it hard to integrate with. Seems like they have sorted this out now, and this should make it for a quicker turn around in the future.

JshWright• 13 years ago

It's been sorted for a while. I've been using it for months, but if you wanted access to it, you had to either pay for it, or build it from source (I want the latter route).

peatmoss• 13 years ago

I used to meticulously sign all my emails with GPG back in the day with mutt. Then, sometime after leaving FreeBSD for the Mac, I decided to move to Mail.app and GPGTools.

Everything worked great, great enough for me to leave mutt behind and painstakingly move my email archives and everything else into a 21st-century gooified mail environment.

And then I upgraded OS X (I think to jag-wire, maybe?) and spent far too long being sad about non-working GPG. Of course to be honest, lagging GPGTools releases were only part of the reason Mail.app eventually came to be the most hated part of my Mac experience. But lagging GPGTools was the thing that stuck in my craw every time.

I used to be really good at email. I was organized and efficient working in it. But now I've totally given up and moved to GMail. My inbox grows like cancer, with a raft of features I don't use like stars and bayesian recommendations.

In anger, I tried mutt a while back. After hours of setup, I found the magic was gone... but at least GPG signing still worked without a hitch.

chmars3• 13 years ago

Great tool but who wants to way months after each major OS X release to use it (again)?

GPGTools is not alone with this problem. LibreOffice for example can't probably be installed by many users because the binary isn't signed Apple-style. Many users will get an error message by OS X and just forget about LibreOffice …

gnaffle3• 13 years ago

Hopefully it'll be at least some time before the make such a big change to Mail.app. Remember it worked well for many releases before we got into the current situation.

mike-cardwell• 13 years ago

People should probably use operating systems written by people who care about backwards compatibility. Ideally ones that are developed in the open.

tvon• 13 years ago

If I am understanding the problem correctly...

Apple implemented app signing by default in 10.8. Users can either turn this off in System Preferences (removing the error), or the LibreOffice team can pay the $100 annual fee to get a properly signed app.

ppierald• 13 years ago

The GPGTools team had a paid version (beta) out for months. I felt the functionality was worth the minor investment and also ensured that there was some path forward for future revs.

chmars3• 13 years ago

A beta version is nice but it's a beta, i.e., it's not thought for use on productive systems. Paying is fine too but there're always developer releases of OS X and the GPGTools developers should therefore to get their app ready on or shortly after the release of a new major OS X version.

At the same time, I assume that the developers are well aware of the delay issue. So what exactly causes the delay? Is there any way to support the GPGTools developers in this regard?

breser• 13 years ago

For anyone wondering, this comes with GPG 2.0.19, 2.0.20 came out on May 10th 2013 with a security fix: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2012-6085/

I believe they've patched it in this release though: http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/everything/4323-cve-...

It's disappointing that their release notes don't mention this.

lukele4• 13 years ago

It's true we should have mentioned it in the release notes, I think we forgot. Mentioned it only on Twitter. Will definitely do better in the future!

dcalacci• 13 years ago

It's good to see a group actively trying to move PGP into the mainstream. I think that PGP is valuable, and that this work is worthwhile if only because it makes it easier to use PGP on a day-to-day basis.

izietto• 13 years ago

What is the difference between GPG and PGP?

rosser• 13 years ago

GPG is the FSF's implementation of the OpenPGP spec. PGP was the original implementation upon which the spec is based, and is now the name of a company, owned by Symantec, that makes a commercial version of the software, and some related tools.

cdjk• 13 years ago

While this is great, the teaser animation/splash screen [1] is incredibly irritating. While slick and very pretty, the "typing" animation took way too long - and there's no obvious way to disable it.

Does anyone know how they got around sandboxing, since that was the problem with Mountain Lion up until now?

[1] https://gpgtools.org/index.html?teaser=1

tinco• 13 years ago

I think it could be less irritating if they would just increase the speed to be at or above reading speed. Surely someone has researched what that speed is and written something about it?

I think it's worth defending because even though I was annoyed by it, I did read every letter! Maybe because it's because I'm slightly invested since I started using gpgtools a few days ago and was very impressed by the software, but still, getting people to read copy is a very desirable thing on any marketing site right?

lukele4• 13 years ago

We've found a kind of "hole" in Apple's sandboxing (they know about it but I guess it's necessary for legacy software) and hope they don't close it too soon

es20641• 13 years ago

I've never used PGP or GPG before, is this something that I should be using?

claudius2• 13 years ago

Yes.

daemon13• 13 years ago

Which one?

Spooky23• 13 years ago

Do OpenGPG smartcards work?

GPGTools – OpenPGP Tools for Apple OS X

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