Carmen Ortiz weighing appeal for motel owner forfeiture suit

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/ortiz_motel_owner_we%E2%80%99re_not_done_yet

by forgingahead • 13 years ago

54 32 13 years ago

cobrabyte• 13 years ago

Sigh. This woman just doesn't get it, does she? You'd think that the public taking to pitchforks for her job would have led to some serious introspection on her part.

tokenizer• 13 years ago

If she keeps it up, she'll definitely lose any political future, as we usually don't forget things here on the web.

tedunangst2• 13 years ago

I've heard rumors that Massachusetts is considering allowing people who don't read HN to vote...

manicdee• 13 years ago

This will actually solidify her political future, showing that she is willing to make "the hard decisions" and pursue "what is right" in the face of harsh opposition from people demonising her and attempting to sully her name in public.

Remember that most of the people who have any voice in these matters make decisions by reputation, not merit.

emkemp• 13 years ago

Or maybe, just maybe, she thinks she's doing the right thing?

stfu• 13 years ago

Exactly. Some people see it as confirmation of their "mission" when they face criticism.

mpyne3• 13 years ago

I think it's the Marines that have the saying: "Anything worth shooting, is worth shooting twice." Unless the judge points out some obvious mis-application of the prosecutor's legal logic then it shouldn't be unusual to "weigh an appeal" as the logic was supposed to have been sound enough to warrant the case in the first place.

betterunix3• 13 years ago

Then she has a pretty warped sense of what "the right thing" is. Not that that should come as a surprise to anyone who has been following the actions of the DOJ...

darkarmani• 13 years ago

I don't think she is concerned with the right thing unless the right thing furthers her career. That's how prosecutors are measured.

She knows the owner isn't connected with the drug trade at all. She is playing up that angle, so she can put the $1.5M seizure on her resume.

electic• 13 years ago

This just reeks of being vindictive, evil, stubborn, revengeful, and down right dumb. This woman has no place in any elected office.

socrates1998• 13 years ago

Wow, speechless.

fleitz• 13 years ago

Excellent, hopefully she can fully sully the reputation of the USDOJ to the point where the Senate has to step in.

A horrible case like this is exactly the kind of case to bring to trial before the people to set precedent. The more egregious the violation the more restrictive the regulation will be. The harder you push the pendulum the harder it swings back.

Sounds like she's vindictive enough to dig two graves.

Does anyone know how much traction she's getting amongst the AM radio crowd? Sounds like something that audience would eat up, especially in light of Kelo.

imjk• 13 years ago

There's nothing scarier to me than people of power who are so drunk in their own arrogance that they refuse to ever accept that they could be in the wrong. I too hope that this come back to bite her.

cheez• 13 years ago

I believe the nature of the job and ascendancy to the job requires a lack of empathy.

lysol• 13 years ago

When civil cases are used instead of criminal cases it seems particularly disgusting that the government can even appeal a decision in favor of a private citizen.

eliben2• 13 years ago

Please, stop this. This is off topic on HN. A prosecutor's legal battles with some drug-infested motel is not what I come here to read about. Stop turning HN into a tabloid where people read about loved and hated celebrities.

thesis• 13 years ago

I'm not sure about you, but I am not forced to read every article on the first page. Skip over them if they don't interest you. Sheesh.

eliben2• 13 years ago

But there's only a limited amount of articles on the first page... I would much rather see something programming/startup/technology-related up there. The threads about Aaron were important. The follow-up threads about his legal case vs. Ortiz were perhaps less interesting to some, but still very much relevant.

_This_ is blatantly off topic. Journalists and bloggers are sensationalist and know how to keep milking a good story when they see it. I do not expect this to overflow to HN.

betterunix3• 13 years ago

You can downvote articles. Or you could ignore them. For some of us, the state of the US legal system, and the actions of a prosecutor with a fetish for attacking hackers, is something worth paying attention to.

benatkin• 13 years ago

> You can downvote articles.

Not on HN, only on reddit. You can flag them.

frere• 13 years ago

Actually, you're wrong.... ok, glad we cleared that up!

jMyles• 13 years ago

This is not off-topic. This is about the use of "discretion" on the part of a prosecutor to stifle entrepreneurship. This is squarely and centrally within the mainstream of HN.

tedunangst2• 13 years ago

Say what? You think the motive for seizing the hotel was "I'm tired of all these pesky entrepreneurs"?

Carmen Ortiz weighing appeal for motel owner forfeiture suit

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