Dogma 25 – Vow of Chastity (2025)

I'm thinking you could shoot an awesome sci-fi thriller under these rules. Even one that includes space travel. Just don't have any of the narrative take place in space: have only one character off-planet and have them communicate via radio.

jmusall• 2 months ago

I've seen good, low-budget indie sci-fi short films that would presumably meet all of the Dogma 25 rules. So I think it doesn't protect against this category of films and neither would that be a good thing anyways. It just requires creative solutions if you want to e.g. portrait space travel.

irdc3• 2 months ago

Which genres would that be?

One could also argue that certain genres simply won't ever work as an arthouse movie.

RobotToaster2• 2 months ago

Which genres would that be?

Space opera, high fantasy and bangsian fantasy are three that come to mind.

brazzy2• 2 months ago

I don't think it's meant as a constraint to be worked around, but as a guardrail against being inauthentic.

And it excludes a lot less than its inspiration Dogme 95, which has as one rule "Genre movies are not acceptable."

pjc50• 2 months ago

"Genre movies are not acceptable."

I find that hilarious, like proclaiming that only other people have an ethnicity or an accent. Because of course Dogme is a genre of its own.

viccis• 2 months ago

Makes sense because it's similar to one of the ones from Dogme95 which explicitly excluded genre files.

dfxm12• 2 months ago

That's ok. The goal is not for every film to fit into this criteria.

Hnrobert422• 2 months ago

What is happening? What is the difference between Dogma and Dogme? What is this site about?

jffry• 2 months ago

"dogme" is the Danish, Norwegian, and French spelling of the word "dogma"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dogme

Hnrobert422• 2 months ago

Oooh. That explains my friend named Mathilde. Nice. Thanks.

brazzy2• 2 months ago

Dogme is Danish, because it's a manifesto of a founded in Denmark - and it's basically an update of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95

maelito• 2 months ago

My eyes are bleeding reading this CSS

orangebread• 2 months ago

My brain is bleeding after reading this strange ass manifesto.

leshenka• 2 months ago

I believe red and black theme is an artistic choice. Sadly, readability suffers from this choice. Just making the text bold makes it a lot better while preserving its spirit.

bdcravens• 2 months ago

The same way that HN puts tags like [video] or [pdf] in titles, they should have something like [eyestab] for a site like that. I was so not ready for that visual assault.

mayukh• 2 months ago

Nothing like rules for spurring creativity. Waiting for the manual next.

smcl• 2 months ago

Deliberately imposing constraints on yourself is actually a very well-established way to spur creativity and innovation. For example this movement was inspired by something similar from back in the 1990s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95

jedimastert3• 2 months ago

Nothing like rules for spurring creativity.

I feel like it's pretty well known in creative spaces that constraints breed creativity.

coldtea2• 2 months ago

Creative after creative and artist after artist has said pretty much that constraints and limitations indeed spur creatitivy...

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs• 2 months ago

Pretentious, pompous trash.

RobotToaster2• 2 months ago

I wonder if they would accept a CGI movie entirely set within a computer, nothing in the rules seem to prohibit it :).

jedimastert3• 2 months ago

I feel like people are reading this as "this is how the under signers think all movies should be made, and we are judging movies not made this way as a moral failing", when I think a better reading would be "as directors/film makers/story tellers, this is how we think we can maximize our own creativity and joy when we make movies".

jedimastert3• 2 months ago

So this is my art degree coming out, but I feel like invoking the name of Dogma 95 and the "vow of chastity" without what appears to be any of the original people involved or blessing feels a little lame, especially when the actual rules are pretty different from the original. At least, I don't see any indication of like a real personal connection to the original.

I feel like they probably should have come up with a different name and just noted the connection in the manifesto

TrevorFSmith• 2 months ago

I maybe shouldn't judge their ideas about film by their choice of illegible background and text colors, but I do.

Dogma 25 – Vow of Chastity (2025)

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