Phusion Passenger 4.0 beta 1 is here

http://blog.phusion.nl/2012/10/24/phusion-passenger-4-0-beta-1-is-here/

by dRiek • 14 years ago

60 31 14 years ago

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We are continuously improving Phusion Passenger, and we strive to be the best application server out there when it comes to stability, reliability, performance and ease of use. Not just for Ruby. If you have any feedback on how we can improve, please let us know.

modernerd2• 14 years ago

Please extend the Passenger Enterprise $99/year "Startup" license to include "hackers" as well as "startups, students, educational use, and non-profits".

I have a handful of pet Ruby projects in the pipeline which won't make money, and I'd like to run them on a VPS using the Passenger Enterprise mass deployment feature with rolling restarts. At $249/year, I'm not too keen. But at $99/year I'd go for it.

tinco3• 14 years ago

If you don't make money, doesn't that make you a non-profit? If you do make money, then you're either a startup or an established business. I don't know what a "hacker" is in your context? Why does a "hacker" need mass deployment and rolling restarts, while the feature is not worth 249 for him?

tinco3• 14 years ago

Since our goal for Phusion Passenger is for it to become the ultimate polyglot webserver, which technology would you guys want to see support for the most?

We're looking at Node.JS, Python, Haskell, Mono(C#), PHP. Do any of these tickle your fancy or is there one missing?

hackerboos• 14 years ago

Python most definitely.

tinco3• 14 years ago

We posted our passenger+python announcements on the Python reddit before, but we didn't get much attention for it. Do you know in what way we could really address the Python webdevelopment community?

candl• 14 years ago

I've been using passenger's wsgi support for close to two years. (I transitioned from ruby to python for web dev so it's no surprise that I stayed with what I knew best). I would love to see Mono support as it is in desperate need of a good webserver - especially now since the ASP.NET stack was open sourced.

jarito• 14 years ago

At Rackspace, we use Node.JS and Python out of those.

ilamparithi• 14 years ago

For playframework apps?

GreySyntax• 14 years ago

C# via Mono sounds very interesting :) would make deployments much easier

jamesbritt• 14 years ago

Haskell would be killer.

gcao• 14 years ago

Great work!

Node.js and python support will be nice.

JimmaDaRustla4• 14 years ago

I just use uWSGI - not sure what the added value for Passenger would be.

FooBarWidget6• 14 years ago

uWSGI requires another daemon which you must manage. With uWSGI, you must configure Nginx to forward requests to that daemon. Phusion Passenger fully integrates into Nginx so that is no longer necessary. With less moving parts, there is less system administration overhead.

ghotli• 14 years ago

I'm avidly looking forward to Python and Node.js support.

moe3• 14 years ago

Still no zero-downtime restarts?!

I can only wonder what the phusion guys are thinking. Either way, stick with unicorn.

egze• 14 years ago

They have it in Passenger Enterprise.

FooBarWidget6• 14 years ago

We have had zero-downtime restarts (or, as we call it, rolling restarts) since August 1 2012, in Phusion Passenger Enterprise: https://www.phusionpassenger.com/enterprise

We also implement rolling restarts more conveniently than Unicorn:

* There are multiple ways to implement rolling restarts in Unicorn. One of them is by sending SIGUSR2. This makes Unicorn fork off a new master with the same number of workers. However this requires twice the memory usage during a restart.

* There are ways to script Unicorn to make it restart process-by-process, but this requires some effort.

* Phusion Passenger Enterprise implements rolling restarts with a single config option (PassengerRollingRestarts on), and it performs process-by-process restarting so that you don't need twice the memory usage. It automates everything for you.

* The "deployment error resistance" feature, which can be used in combination with rolling restarting, ensures that in case your new app version doesn't start, it keeps the old processes around until an administrator manually tells it to restart again.

There are many other features in Phusion Passenger Enterprise which Unicorn does not implement (e.g. live IRB console), or that we implement better. Take a look, you may like it.

We are flattered that you like Unicorn. Being Unicorn contributors ourselves, it's always good to see people contend with technology that we've contributed to. :) Phusion Passenger 4 is the combination of all the experience that we've built up in the past few years, in both Phusion Passenger and Unicorn.

moe3• 14 years ago

I didn't ask for a marketing pitch.

I just wanted to point out that your free product lacks a critical, basic feature. Many passenger-users don't seem to be aware that they are serving HTTP 502/503 error pages to their users during every deploy unless they pay $10 per server and month for your convenience.

drewda• 14 years ago

Does this mean that Passenger can now run an EventMachine service next to a Rails app?

JimmaDaRustla4• 14 years ago

I'm having trouble seeing the value in Phusion with nginx and python/django apps - I just use uwsgi.

Any big reasons to use it over said config?

FooBarWidget6• 14 years ago

See my reply here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4693943

elektronaut• 14 years ago

The ability to run multiple rubies is a very welcome addition, and just in time now that Rails 4 drops support for Ruby 1.8. It's going to save us alot of hassle transitioning legacy apps over. Thanks alot.

Phusion Passenger 4.0 beta 1 is here

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