Amazon introduces Nova Chat

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/amazon-nova-website-sdk

by ao98 • 1 year ago

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ao98• 1 year ago

Here's the actual link to the product: https://nova.amazon.com/chat

Amazon should have taken a page out of literally everyone elses book and made it public. But no Amazon being Amazon, ofc you have to sign in

guerrilla• 1 year ago

This is good. It means people won't. Enough Amazon already.

harvey9• 1 year ago

Last time I checked you have to sign in at deepseek

theshrike79• 1 year ago

Thank you for your interest in Amazon Nova. At this time, we are only accepting customers in the US.

weberer2• 1 year ago

Every single time

lazystar• 1 year ago

GDPR is a double edged sword

monkmartinez• 1 year ago

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or genuine surprise.

hu3• 1 year ago

Well they certainly have the GPUs for that.

I wonder if this will squeeze cloud GPU pricing even more or it's already priced.

ZeroCool2u3• 1 year ago

Do they?? Trying to get GPU's from AWS at work is like pulling teeth for me.

kcb• 1 year ago

Wait you mean you don't want to reserve 8xH100s a week from now for $20,000 just for your 1 day experiment? Crazy.

NBJack2• 1 year ago

Well they certainly have the GPUs for that.

Eh, not really. They are behind in this 'race' on GPU stock as well as spare power, and I question if they will be able to truly catch up before the interest wanes.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/business/amazon-shares-fall-on...

ZeroCool2u3• 1 year ago

The UI is kind of horrendous. Not even a dark mode. I also have a hard time imagining wanting to use BedRock at this point. Still can't use any of the leading models besides Claude, plus IAM config is comparatively painful, and you have to setup bedrock-access-gateway to get an OpenAI compatible API for tools that expect that API setup.

weberer2• 1 year ago

The AWS console supports dark mode. Just click the gear icon in the top bar.

ZeroCool2u3• 1 year ago

I'm talking about the actual product interface here: https://nova.amazon.com/chat

Unless I've missed it, which is totally possible, I don't see anything in the UI or the settings that lets me change to a different theme.

jdmg94• 1 year ago

Amazon likes to force their devs into full stack roles, like they'll hire you for a frontend role and you'll end up writing java. Some teams do recognize the need for specialization, but generally speaking UI at amazon is an afterthought.

ozten• 1 year ago

Probably a no go for Spanish speakers.

riffic2• 1 year ago

not really

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nova#Spanish

ARandomerDude• 1 year ago

I think it was a pun. "No va" in Spanish means "it doesn't go."

siva7• 1 year ago

> Amazon makes it easier for developers and tech enthusiasts to explore Amazon Nova

Well, you don't. Can't find a simple way to try it out. Not that i expected anything else. The only thing saving AWS in the AI wave seems to be their deal with Anthropic.

arresin• 1 year ago

If it’s anything like AWS then that makes sense. Why is the UI for all cloud providers absolutely dogshit? Has anyone written about this?

ebiester• 1 year ago

I have empathy for them. It's a complex product with many different use cases, so there is no one-best UI for anyone. Further, accommodating multiple skill levels is a genuinely hard problem.

That said, there is a larger problem: every team is incentivized to ship as fast as possible, and good UI takes time and consistency across every team. As a manager with a team that works closely with design systems, it's a brutally hard problem to get right and nobody wants to slow down in the design phase or have limitations placed on them for the purposes of consistency.

I could go on for pages, but https://www.youtube.com/@zeroheighthq has a design systems wtf podcast that has gone on far longer than me.

singularity2001• 1 year ago

did you hear the joke that mastering cloud UI is the last benchmark AGI will fail at

_huayra_• 1 year ago

Still can't seem to do RAG or otherwise answer questions about a specific URL. Seems kinda useless compared to even copilot or Gemini 2.5 unless I'm missing something.

I asked it to summarize this thread [0] and it just said "that thread is about the monthly "who's hiring"' on HN", not even close.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43533516

icu• 1 year ago

I don't really understand where this fits in the market? It's not as intelligent as the pack leaders and is about onpar with GPT-4o mini. When comparing it to GPT-4o mini further, while it is a bit faster, GPT-4o mini is a lot more cheaper [Source: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/nova-pro/providers].

In terms of value for money, I would probably go with GPT-4o mini and not Nova Pro. Maybe Amazon feels that it needs to have their own offering to stay relevant?

atonse• 1 year ago

My guess is it's also about enterprise agreements.

For many larger enterprises, governments, etc, the barrier to trying these things is to pay for them (new contracts, RFPs, etc).

But all of them already have enterprise agreements with MS, Amazon, etc. So there must be some class of customers to whom it's easy to just add this to their AWS bill.

casper14• 1 year ago

This is 100% it

alach11• 1 year ago

These business can easily Anthropic models through AWS Bedrock. All it requires it a simple clickthrough EULA. That's what we do at the F500 non-tech company where I work. The same is true with OpenAI models in Azure.

I can't imagine AWS is going to get much usage of these models... but you have start somewhere I guess.

placardloop2• 1 year ago

This isn’t an AWS product, it’s Amazon (the non-AWS side). I don’t think this has anything to do with AWS billing.

AWS already has Amazon Q, which is its chatbot offering for AWS customers.

999900000999• 1 year ago

Is every multi billion dollar tech company working on this ?

The image generation looks like it's at least a full year behind.

barbazoo• 1 year ago

Every cloud provider, which makes some sense I guess.

esafak• 1 year ago

Let them use it to improve Rufus, their in-store AI search. Now that would be invaluable to Amazon customers.

asdev• 1 year ago

more undifferentiated offerings, and people don't want to admit AI is plateauing

kristjansson2• 1 year ago

Seems like there's going to be some trademark conflict with https://novaapp.ai/ ?

oezi2• 1 year ago

Nova because it just means 'new' isn't a term anybody can trademark.

NBJack2• 1 year ago

That's a very meta comment, but I'll have to mark it with an X. Would you like an apple for your efforts?

kristjansson2• 1 year ago

trademark != copyright. VW just means people's car, but I'd be in some trouble if I launched a new transportation company called "Volk's Wagens"

randomNumber7• 1 year ago

Apple

Jotalea• 1 year ago

If I had a cent for every brand named Nova, I'd have a dollar.

nyarlathotep_• 1 year ago

Is this just an "us too!" offering? What is the purpose of this exactly? Promo project?

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