Boeing overwrote surveillance footage of door plug repair

https://abcnews.go.com/US/boeing-overwrote-surveillance-footage-door-plug-repair-ntsb/story?id=108084196

by s3r3nity • 2 years ago

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ado__dev• 2 years ago

And nothing will be done about it.

AndrewKemendo• 2 years ago

I’m pretty cynical but this does actually appear to be something

red-iron-pine• 2 years ago

there is an investigation pending.

that, as of right now, means nothing. there will be a few weeks of haranguing and a few cycles in the media, then it'll die down.

a few months from now this will be forgotten, and HN + every other platform will be upset about something else, be it the election, or AI, or some other corpo shannigans.

then there will be a report about findings -- and we'll see what that "something" actually is. but unless they're willing to pierce the corporate veil or put people in jail, it will ultimately amount to nothing.

dboreham• 2 years ago

Probably hired the Epstein guards..

dvno42• 2 years ago

Could just be a retention thing. Unless legally mandated, why retain video footage longer than required?

jprd• 2 years ago

Agreed, but to have NO documentation about the work, at all?

droopyEyelids• 2 years ago

That would have made a better headline

seo-speedwagon2• 2 years ago

It’s a neat trick, since Boeing claims they can’t find any record of the work and don’t know who did it.

s3r3nity• 2 years ago

This was my initial reaction as well, but in these work environments record keeping is USUALLY extensive by design: parts, tools, even minor acts like tightening a screw or bolt is logged.

The fact that they can't reproduce _ANY_ records of this work, including who would've done the work, is suspicious.

Any HN'ers here have experience in these types of environments to either validate / refute?

jononor• 2 years ago

I do not know aerospace. But even in electronics manufacturing for general industrial use one has protocols for documenting repairs (be it Return To Manufacturer or site work), and missing would be considered a deviation. I don't think one could be compliant with a under a standard quality manager system like ISO9000 either. I would consider the lack of traceability a serious failure in itself.

jjk166• 2 years ago

According to other sources[0] Boeing says they retain surveillance footage for 30 days, and the accident was months after the work was done, so it would presumably have been overwritten before anyone knew it would matter. That being said, if you're going to use surveillance footage as a fallback to deal with missing documentation, then 30 days of retention is woefully innadequate.

[0] https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/boeing-security-footage-...

Sirizarry• 2 years ago

It’s incredible, I’ve installed camera systems for pizza parlors and they wanted footage saved for up to 6 months! Boeing is just malicious

seo-speedwagon2• 2 years ago

So in the last ~48 hours a major whistleblower turns up dead and evidence ends up destroyed. Hell of a company.

sydbarrett74• 2 years ago

If this footage was overwritten in isolation, without deleting all other footage of the same age, then that points to mens rea.

JohnFen• 2 years ago

Sheesh. Here I was thinking that Boeing's failures were "just" that they prioritize profits over good engineering practices and safety. But between the whistleblower's death and now this, things are looking more nefarious than I would have suspected.

wmf• 2 years ago

I don't think Boeing is destroying evidence; they're just generally negligent about keeping accurate records in the first place. Boeing can't provide information that they never recorded.

Boeing overwrote surveillance footage of door plug repair

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