The Death of Infosec Twitter

https://www.cyentia.com/the-death-of-infosec-twitter/

by amirmasoudabdol • 3 years ago

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theaiquestion• 3 years ago

Has any of the OSINT/INFOSEC crowd moved to mastodon or somewhere other then twitter?

mepian• 3 years ago

There's an entire Mastodon instance of infosec people here: https://infosec.exchange/about

ZunarJ52• 3 years ago

A whole list of infosec folks on there for importing, if anyone wants: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t13k5_cNhP9_TgoUmqDZ...

fsmv• 3 years ago

This is the best mastodon instance, Jerry is cool

sylens• 3 years ago

They have almost completely migrated to Mastodon

HKH2• 3 years ago

What about Threads? Isn't that supposed to be the Twitter-killer?

DoctorOW• 3 years ago

The people leaving Twitter want:

1. Both high quality and high quantity posts instantly available

2. Reasonable API access, maybe not directly but they want their niche workflows to be supported

3. Clear and consistent moderation. Eliminate disruptive content while giving reasonable people a clear understanding of whether something will be removed before they post it.

Threads has made vague promises to these three but not yet delivered.

werid• 3 years ago

not available in EU.

SideburnsOfDoom• 3 years ago

Infosec and similar communities migrated off twitter starting months ago.

Threads was not an option then, and isn't of much interest to these communities (as a platform to socialise upon) now.

bovermyer• 3 years ago

Threads is too new for large communities to coalesce there yet.

mschuster91• 3 years ago

Not available officially in Europe, for one

avithedev• 3 years ago

Threads lasted for like a week

softbt• 3 years ago

this is so sad rip

kjs3• 3 years ago

Why? People leave an enshitified platform for less shitty pastures, and the audience can follow them.

toofy• 3 years ago

rip? its not dead, it just moved. the community just shifted to a platform that is _much_ more suited to the community’s needs.

- it’s open, in more ways than just the obvious. while twitter is narrowing in just about every direction you can think of.

- significantly higher signal that isn’t lost amongst a bunch of noise.

- relates to above, but kinda different: waay better quality of discourse. just much more pleasant.

- much more responsive and predictable admin. so so so many props to jerry.

definitely not a bad thing, it’s absolutely a step up and out.

gdulli• 3 years ago

They probably meant RIP Twitter, RIP what it once was and used to be capable of.

midasz• 3 years ago

I'm really happy they moved to masto, their content just became much more accessible

phendrenad2• 3 years ago

Infosec twitter may be gone, but the infosec spam bots are still there. Just try searching for "Linux kernel" and try to find content by a real human. Before you manage to find one, you'll have to scan through hundreds if not thousands of low-quality bot posts about the latest linux kernel commit, linux kernel CVEs, or linux kernel mailing list posts.

yakaccount4• 3 years ago

This is sad indeed, but it was already infested with low quality trolls before the Elon Musk purchase. The entire Jonathon Scott clown-fiesta was utterly embarrassing.

miki123211• 3 years ago

This same exact thing happened to the blind community, of which I'm a member of. Blind Twitter was pretty vibrant before Elon took over, but that changed almost completely around November/December of last year. The killer change for us was the death of third-party clients, on which blind people relied almost exclusively. The whole community is on Mastodon now, mostly concentrated around two instances, though there are plenty of people elsewhere.

contingencies2• 3 years ago

Glad to hear a new home was found. My child and I began to analyze random public braille the other day out of random interest and found it was surprisingly easy to pick up a few letters, apparently being both alphabetic and potentially conceived as some kind of semi-derived state from regular roman shapes which provides a handy memory reference for we sighted people. I'd be very interested to hear what the best braille interfaces are. How long does it take to learn to use it for input? How do totally blind people handle the presumed need to switch between typing (on a regular keyboard, I would assume) and "input" (fingers on a braille generating device) modes at once? I suppose the staccato nature of this type of interaction harks back heavily to the old days of Unix, limited baud terminals and early micros.

themoonisachees2• 3 years ago

Braille screens are prohibitively expensive. Most blind people on the internet either have enough sight to navigate a heavily vision-optimized interface (high-contrast, large text) or use a screen reader, or both.

As far as input goes, braille keyboards are more affordable, but many users can touch-type (and have their screen reader read back). Dictation is also a mature option at this point.

Blind people need 3rd-party apps because these apps can be more compatible with screen readers, or can be themed in an easier way allowing for blind-friendly presets. In general, official apps tend to be heavily obfuscated to prevent automated scraping and puppeting. Since blind users often need to basically puppet their devices by not using common interfaces, this puts them at odds with corporations who do not care about them and would ban them if allowed. The alternative is of course not to use big tech products but just because you have a disability shouldn't mean you are abandoning at least half the current web.

throwawaymobule• 3 years ago

Is anyone suing them for ADA violations, or does the site work 'well enough' with accessiblity tools to avoid it?

yosito2• 3 years ago

All of the infosec people I follow have moved to Mastodon. As someone with primarily tech related interests, I'm currently finding Mastodon as good or better than Twitter at it's prime.

throwaway2904• 3 years ago

What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon".

Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess?

Edit: thanks for the pointers!

yellow_lead• 3 years ago

Defcon.social works great for this particular subject.

lapcat3• 3 years ago

They don't want you to know.

This sounds overly dramatic and conspiratorial.

entropyie• 3 years ago

For those whom are curious, a lot of infosec people are now on infosec.exchange .

rsynnott2• 3 years ago

I mean... strictly speaking yes, but for most practical purposes it hardly matters, surely?

ASalazarMX• 3 years ago

But they're specifically moving to Mastodon (infosec.exchange and defcon.social), which is not the same as moving to Lemmy, KBin, or PixelFed. For example, Lemmy federates with KBin, but not with Mastodon. Kbin federates both with Lemmy and Mastodon. Also, Mastodon has a Twitter-like UX, while Lemmy/Kbin have a Reddit-like UX. PixelFed has a Flickr-like UX.

It makes a difference, and insisting on calling them ActivityPub or Fediverse servers has strong GNU/Linux vibes, which we should probably avoid too.

solarkraft• 3 years ago

Awesome, it's great to see a successful move to the Fediverse.

CoastalCoder• 3 years ago

And with that, we say “so long” to infosec twitter.

... and thanks for all the phish!

krrrh• 3 years ago

I for one welcome the decentralized internet that Elon is ushering in. Things were better when we had small disparate forums where people could develop their perspectives in community. As long as people are members of multiple communities we should have enough cross-pollination and course corrections to keep things mostly on track.

Mods and groupthink are always a threat but it turned out they were a bigger threat still when everyone was trying to be on one social network to rule them all.

The Death of Infosec Twitter

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