Using Lemmy from my existing Mastodon

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by favourable • 3 years ago

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tetrisgm3• 3 years ago

Didn't realize Lemmy uses ActivityPub too. Does it make sense to subscribe to a Lemmy thread in Mastodon? Or use it to DM a Lemmy user? Is there a concept of shared message inbox or such?

dvngnt_• 3 years ago

not really. you can create posts from mastodon but following people and groups needs work

tetrisgm3• 3 years ago

How so? I assumed all AP posts would work across

ajayyy• 3 years ago

One cool side-effect is that existing mastodon bots (like remind bots) work seamlessly. Just ping them as normal and they will reply.

rglullis8• 3 years ago

I just tried sending DM from Mastodon account to my Lemmy one, it didn't work.

tetrisgm3• 3 years ago

That's really odd. Why would it not

senkora• 3 years ago

Lemmy has been able to mostly replace Reddit for me. It’s much smaller right now but in my experience I do find enough interesting things there to hold my attention.

I would love better integration between Lemmy and Mastodon so that I can consume Mastodon content as well.

For those looking on from the sidelines, the Fediverse is much realer than any other alternative social network I’ve ever looked into. It has rough edges vis-a-vis posting but Lemmy is very usable for passive viewers / commenters and I would 100% recommend it to anyone sophisticated enough to have used a third-party reddit app, especially with the Voyager for Lemmy PWA.

croutonwagon3• 3 years ago

Would agree. I am VERY torn on Lemmy. Its functional, I even run my own instance. But the distaste from the creators jamming of their politics into it, and much of the politics on there, make it really hard to promote or support.

internetter• 3 years ago

But the distaste from the creators jamming of their politics into i

I don't understand. Are you saying the developers aren't allowed to have public political views? Their instance – lemmy.ml, doesn't even accept signups.

I disagree with their views, but I don't see where the politics are being jammed in (actually, the only place I've seen it so far is people complaining about their politics)...

fulafel• 3 years ago

Building, or using, Mastodon or Lemmy rather than big tech owned centralised communication social media is in itself a major political stand of course.

pndy• 3 years ago

So far still it didn't replaced it for me. All the subs I was participating, lurking around didn't become that much active or even moved to fediverse. Mastodon for third time, doesn't seem that much active or perhaps it's because I prefer to post instead of interacting - no idea.

What I find interesting is that tildes seems to become one giant discussion space in AMA style. And local kbin instance unsurprisingly being used by people who pushed their agendas and/or straightforwardly spammed for money in local subreddit.

rglullis8• 3 years ago

Hey, put your mastodon profile in your bio!

dawnerd• 3 years ago

Voyager (wefef) is such an amazing example of what a PWA can be.

Some of the communities have really blown up, lots of 3d printer folk out there.

jochem92• 3 years ago

I think it's interesting that Apple's original idea for iPhone apps was exactly this. Only when jailbreakers made custom apps possible, Apple decided to introduce the app store and turn it into a great success for them, developers and users.

Imagine that web apps had taken off. We'd have such a different ecosystem of apps. Possibly nothing OS specific, except when using device specific features.

rcmjr• 3 years ago

You should look into kbin. It is trying to bridge the threadiverse with mastodon.

NoboruWataya2• 3 years ago

I have been using Lemmy for a few weeks now. I was sceptical before I signed up but I have to say I generally enjoy it a lot and it is a good replacement for Reddit for the most part. I am mostly using it to follow communities related to tech-related things like programming, FOSS, selfhosting, etc.

Positives:

- The communities I frequent are surprisingly active, with plenty of links being posted and a good pace of discussion. Lots of non-Lemmy-related content as well which is great.

- Discussion is generally of a pretty high standard so far.

- The tankie stuff seems pretty self-contained, or at least, has not spread to the communities I follow.

- The platform itself is developing at a very quick pace. At first both the web UI and the app I use (Jerboa) were very buggy but there are new updates every few days and each one fixes a lot of issues.

Some negatives:

- Stability of instances has been an issue. Early on, one of the largest instances (BeeHaw) defederated from two others, meaning that users on any three of the instances would be cut off from a lot of content. So I went with one called VLemmy.net. All went well for a week or two until VLemmy completely disappeared of the face of the internet one night. To this day it's not back up and no one really knows what happened to it. Around the same time, an XSS exploit was found that affected a number of major instances, causing some of them to go down temporarily. All of this is just growing pains but it felt fairly chaotic for a bit.

- Whenever I look at the "All" listing rather than just my subscribed communities, it's like 90% memes, which I don't love. Maybe Reddit was like that too and I just never went to /r/all.

- A lot of non-technical communities I followed on Reddit don't seem to have established over there yet or are very small and inactive.

All in all I'm pleasantly surprised with Lemmy. I still visit Reddit occasionally but my usage of it has dropped significantly and honestly over time I can see myself leaving it altogether.

flutas• 3 years ago

- Whenever I look at the "All" listing rather than just my subscribed communities, it's like 90% memes, which I don't love. Maybe Reddit was like that too and I just never went to /r/all.

This is kinda by design, one popular community can outweigh hundreds of others, but there's a PR open to fix it.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3378

rglullis8• 3 years ago

Care to share the communities you are following? I've subscribed to a bunch on programming.dev, but they've been too quiet.

Regarding stability: consider joining a commercial instance? [0]

[0] https://communick.news (sign up via communick.com and the first 250 people will get free access forever, after that it will be $8/year.

NoboruWataya2• 3 years ago

Some of the ones I frequent often are:

- fediverse @ lemmy.world (about the Fediverse so a lot of meta-content)

- selfhosted @ lemmy.world

- archlinux @ lemmy.ml

- books @ lemmy.ml

- linux @ lemmy.ml

- asklemmy @ lemmy.ml

- fossdroid @ social.fossware.space (FOSS Android apps)

- technology @ beehaw.org

- python @ programming.dev

There are drawbacks to the fact that each instance can have its own Linux community (for example) - it can be hard to know where is "the" place to go. Generally I just go to the /communities page on an instance, select "All" and then go from the top (which I believe is generally the more active communities) down, subscribing to the ones that interest me.

jochem92• 3 years ago

Not who you asked, but maybe also interesting:

- !coffee@lemmy.world

- !snoocalypse@lemmy.ml (if you want to follow the demise of reddit from a distance)

- !thenetherlands@feddit.nl (not interesting if you don't speak Dutch/care about the country, but I mention it because it's surprisingly active for such a small country).

seanalltogether• 3 years ago

I noticed someone posted on Lemmy the other day how easy vote manipulation is. I wonder if the reddit style model is sustainable on federated platforms.

rglullis8• 3 years ago

The "manipulation" only exists now because the vote-counting algorithms are rudimentary, but unlike reddit, they are completely transparent. Every upvote/downvote is registered in the instance and relayed to the instances.

This means that we can have, e.g, vote-ranking algorithms that are a lot smarter: we can have votes that boost everything vote by someone N-degrees of your friend network, or de-boosted if a upvoting ring is detected, or ignored if the account is less than X days old, etc.

mariusor• 3 years ago

To add to that, the ActivityPub protocol or the ActivityStreams vocabulary says nothing about limiting the amount of times an account can Like/Dislike a comment or submission.

CaptainFever• 3 years ago

Is there a Lemmy (or AP groups) to NNTP bridge existing nowadays? I really like some of the communities I see on there, and I’d like to subscribe and post to them from Thunderbird.

rcarmo• 3 years ago

I tried this for a while on my personal server and had to stop following Lemmy communities because the load was just too much (ActivityPub is just too chatty).

Using Lemmy from my existing Mastodon

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