How SMS fraud works and how to guard against it

https://apuchitnis.substack.com/p/how-sms-fraud-works-and-how-to-guard-against-it

by apuchitnis • 3 years ago

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This makes the assumption that Twitter blocked it due to SMS fraud. While that's a plausible theory an equally plausible theory is that they were worried about account hijacking and security (and allowed twitter blue subscribers to continue to use it on a you can pay me to be stupid context) which seems equally plausible.

I take issue with a lot of the assumptions in the article but this is funny:

Identify and block premium rate phone numbers, using libphonenumber. Whilst this seems promising, I don’t know how reliable the data and how effective this approach is.

here's this purpose-built and well maintained* library from google which does exactly what I want but i'm not even going to consider it.

* the actual number database has been updated 5x so far this year: https://github.com/google/libphonenumber/commits/master/meta...

cfn• 3 years ago

Elon Musk said that they were being fleeced by SMS fraud when the change was announced.

lostlogin2• 3 years ago

Does Elon stating something make it more or less likely to be true?

jbverschoor3• 3 years ago

And not for blue? It’s just a lame excuse foe the insane price of als using twilio.

If he stated the truth: sms validation is costing millions per week, twillio would lose quite some customers, because companies would finally realize there’s another way that’s cheaper

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

author here: Hey Adam - Elon has mentioned SMS fraud being the reason for blocking it on several occasions. See here: https://commsrisk.com/elon-musk-has-radical-solution-for-a2p....

Re libphonenumber: I think you misread me? I was definitely saying consider it :) I just don't have much personal experience with that approach.

from2• 3 years ago

The numbers are most of the time not premium in the 1-900 sense of the word. They can just appear to be regular mobile or landline numbers in another country and would not be picked up by that library, at least not reliably. There are databases that track some of these numbers but they are usually sold to telcos and are pretty expensive. The only solution is rate limits per number, per IP, and set a max price per SMS of $0.05-$0.10 or so (make your Papua New Guinea users use an Authenticator app instead).

csharpminor3• 3 years ago

IMO WhatsApp is also a great option for 2FA in many countries. OTP is one of the approved outbound templates that WA will let you deliver without an inbound message.

singleshot_2• 3 years ago

Fraud requires that someone make a misrepresentation. Who makes a misrepresentation when SMS fraud is committed? What is the misrepresentation?

Is there any chance that this isn’t actually fraud and that companies who send out tons of text messages to any number a person specifies are just paying for their extraordinarily poor design?

Tijdreiziger• 3 years ago

The attacker misrepresents themselves as a legitimate user who just wants to set up 2FA on their account.

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

I think the fraud here is that the user isn't an actual, legitimate user of the web service. Maybe 'user fraud' is a better term to use here.

robust-cactus• 3 years ago

It's definitely fraud and it's definitely detectable when a 10000 block prefix of numbers sends 100x more SMS than every other prefix out of the blue.

It's basically a referral marketing campaign where the fraudster does revenue share with local sketchy infrastructure providers.

singleshot_2• 3 years ago

I mean, it feels like stealing but it would be complicated to build a case around a fraud charge given that no one ever actively told a lie.

Maybe this is taken care of in the user agreement or the terms of services? “User warrants that he is not trying to profit by use of the two factor auth system?” I’ve never read an agreement like this one.

pg_bot• 3 years ago

If you haven't done this, set the MaxPrice field when sending SMS with an API provider such as Twilio. The message will fail to send if the cost of the sms exceeds the price you set.

https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014170533-Us...

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

author here: awesome, thanks for sharing this pg_bot! :)

kyledrake• 3 years ago

What would be the reasonable value to set maxprice to?

dheera3• 3 years ago

How is this fraud?

If you require me to use SMS (deprecated), you are doing me a disservice and you should pay for the consequences.

Use e-mail. It's free, works across countries, across SIM cards, allows for alphanumeric IDs, and is decentralized and not controlled by telcos.

axelthegerman3• 3 years ago

Some folks build (or use) telecommunication systems that work for (cell) phones. Believe it or not but for receiving a notification via text message you nobody needs to install any apps or even require a smartphone and/or internet access :)

codetrotter• 3 years ago

Use e-mail. It's free

And the email that my service sends you so that you can complete registration will land straight in spam where you won’t find it.

I’ll stick to SMS for activating accounts.

csharpminor3• 3 years ago

You can also use geo-permissions to block delivery to certain countries: https://console.twilio.com/us1/develop/sms/settings/geo-perm...

bevenky• 3 years ago

Founder of https://www.plivo.com here. We have seen similar patterns of fraud on our customers primarily in the international markets, outside the US & Canada. It typically happens on repeating number ranges that are sometimes not even in service. MaxPrice approach did not work well based on our experience as this would lead to just blocking certain destinations completely. Alternatively, what we found better was have a geo permissions related options where customers could block destinations that are never used at a network level and additionally introduce rate limits for those networks, so its not open to an attack. Plivo's console screenshot here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbw3l0oyw7fcjmr/plivo_console_sms_...

highclass• 3 years ago

Does anyone know of a good maximum price cutoff to use for SMS that would allow most non-fraudulent messages while blocking expensive fraudulent ones?

Arch-TK4• 3 years ago

I really want to know, why has everyone moved to SMS 2F"A"?

What was wrong with authenticator applications?

Were they really THAT user unfriendly?

cultofmetatron• 3 years ago

my phone recently just died. only two years old. all my authenticator stuff is gone. sms is fine, I just move the sim to a new phone

lotsofpulp3• 3 years ago

I use Strongbox to backup TOTP in Keepass databases.

ufmace• 3 years ago

Yeah that's the problem - TOTP with a basic app is pretty easy to use, but making sure you're protected from a phone suddenly lost or broken scenario is tougher, and you may not know you need to do it until it's too late. How many people actually store those backup codes properly or go to the trouble to use a third-party app that supports backups and actually do backups?

Arch-TK4• 3 years ago

Wouldn't most people just use Google Authenticator and have it automagically back up to google's nigh unlimited storage space?

Obviously not something anyone who respects their privacy would subject themselves to, but it seems to me like the easy path leads to these things being backed up.

Obviously if google has your 2FA keys and you were using 2FA keys to log into your google account then you would need to recover your account, but you would be stuck in the same situation as if you had damaged/lost your SIM (e.g. if you lose your phone).

71a54xd3• 3 years ago

Just store backup codes, using a 2FA app like authy which can be swapped via SMS defeats the entire point of using 2FA authenticators in lieu of SMS.

lotsofpulp3• 3 years ago

Because phone number also provided a universal identifier that can make the data worth more when selling it.

velavar• 3 years ago

I don't think that folks so much "moved" to SMS 2FA as much as were with it from the start. SMS 2FA is so ingrained in the finance/fintech industry that it's pretty rare for me to see a financial company offer the option to set up an Authenticator 2FA. Also, there is always some part of the consumer population that is still not on a smartphone and even if they are, they may not be "app-savvy" where they know how to install or use an authenticator app. For this reason, I think most finance companies will steer clear of the Authenticator app and go directly for SMS 2FA or worse, email 2FA.

ilamont• 3 years ago

Nobody in my family - parents, kids, spouse - knows what an authenticator app is or would what to do if presented that as an option, although my teen could probably figure it out.

For everyone else, it would be a cascading series of installation and password and app switching and immediacy problems. This would create a great deal of frustration, and ultimately a call to family tech support (me) or the service provider if human tech support is an option which is not the case for many companies such as Google and social media firms.

claytongulick• 3 years ago

I prefer SMS for 2FA because some authenticator apps get tied to a device.

I'm worried about losing my phone and being locked out.

With SMS, I can show my ID to the Verizon rep, get a new phone, and I'm good to go.

moremetadata• 3 years ago

2FA works well with the geolocation service SS7 [1,2], so when your text message and OTP code arrives, the firm could also be using SS7 to get your location.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_System_No._7

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20201219144441/https://www.thebu...

jimt12342• 3 years ago

I finally got my 75-year-old mother to add 2FA/SMS to her online banking account. She calls me (from her landline) every time she tries to login. I have to walk her through the process. We usually have to request a new auth code be sent at least twice. It generally takes 10 or 15 minutes, although, admittedly, half the time is her complaining.

So, yeah, there's no way I could get her to use an Authenticator app. (Also, there's, "...all these apps scare me.", which isn't a bad thing considering the first (and last) app she installed on her Android phone was a malicious 'flashlight' app that kept displaying some sort of crypto ads.)

rootusrootus2• 3 years ago

it's pretty rare for me to see a financial company offer the option to set up an Authenticator 2FA

As a data point, USAA (which is not the biggest bank, of course, but it is not tiny either) has supported TOTP for years. There are probably others, but at least some banks support relatively modern security.

alwayslikethis4• 3 years ago

Is email worse? Email for the most part does not require you to enter into an agreement with a predatory or monopolistic phone company, and there are services to generate single use emails that you can segregate between services.

chatmasta• 3 years ago

Have they? It seems the trend is to support Authenticator apps (i.e. one-time scan a QR code to a TOTP URL that I store on my own device). I haven't seen too many products that support TOTP 2FA but require SMS 2FA.

Some companies do require a phone number to setup an account (because it's the best proxy we have for "one per real person" or "expensive for one person to get many of"), but if they're competent then you can remove it as a 2FA option if you replace it with a TOTP code. [0]

If you ask me, it should be illegal to require SMS 2FA without an opt-out to TOTP. Perhaps relatedly, I'm also curious about the percentage of Twilio revenue from 2FA messages.

[0] RANT: Google, in typically creepy fashion, makes it difficult to enable TOTP without first either providing a phone number, or downloading a Google app to "tap to login!" on your phone. But they do allow you to setup a hardware token, so I found a workaround [1] to configure TOTP without providing a phone number, which is (perhaps ironically) to use Chrome DevTools to create a virtualized WebAuthn device and add it as a hardware token 2FA option. Then it's possible to setup TOTP and remove the virtualized device, leaving you with only TOTP 2FA and no com.google apps begging you for entitlements on your phone.

[1] https://superuser.com/a/1759306

zootboy• 3 years ago

It seems the trend is to support Authenticator apps

Oh, I wish that were true for financial institutions. But for my sample size of 3 credit unions, 1 large bank, and 1 brokerage, only one (small CU) supports TOTP. All the others have SMS as the only, mandatory 2FA. It drives me crazy how backwards that is.

malfist2• 3 years ago

Because lots of us upgrade phones every couple years, or have dropped a phone and had it break, or get water in it or something.

It's all too easy to realize after the fact you needed to transfer something between the old phone to the new phone to keep the authenticator working. Sometimes that's not available (phone damaged), or don't realize you need it until after you've already sent the phone in for trade in.

So yes, they are user unfriendly.

Arch-TK4• 3 years ago

Because lots of us upgrade phones every couple years, or have dropped a phone and had it break, or get water in it or something.

This is just a matter of using one of the many TOTP authenticators which allow backups of the keys.

If people drop or lose their phones, do they lose all their contacts, photos, passwords? I bet not. I am pretty sure this is a solved problem by now.

Moreover, even if you do lose the keys, that's what account recovery processes are for.

rlpb• 3 years ago

AIUI, EU regulation requires 2FA in finance now, but the 2FA must also confirm details such as a target account and/or amount.

Authenticator apps (at least those that use TOTP/HOTP) can't do that. SMS can. So can card readers but people hate having to carry them around. So we're stuck with SMS.

jbverschoor3• 3 years ago

You can use the app as a second factor. But you’ll need to transfer on your pc

crazygringo3• 3 years ago

People lose their phones and then your authenticator app doesn't work anymore, even if you restore from backup. And then the recovery mechanism is often a giant pain.

Yes, that's pretty user unfriendly.

It's a lot more common to lose your phone than lose your phone number.

mcherm• 3 years ago

There are numerous tools, Google Authenticator and Authy for example, that protect against this by securely storing the keys. In fact, I would venture to say that MOST users of authentication apps are using ones that provide a backup in case the phone is lost.

lostlogin2• 3 years ago

I'd say that upgrades are the pain point. Every time I upgrade my phone the dread of sorting authenticator apps is real.

jjav2• 3 years ago

People lose their phones and then your authenticator app doesn't work anymore

Don't ever keep your TOTP seed solely on a phone. Yes, that is asking for trouble. But you can save it in a safe place and then you control it.

autoexec3• 3 years ago

authenticator apps come with privacy concerns. Right now, Microsoft has no means to collect my location data, they don't have any access to my phone, including my phone's camera. The moment I install Microsoft authenticator that situation changes. No thanks.

kentonv3• 3 years ago

Most sites that support authenticator apps support the TOTP standard that allows you to use any authenticator app. You don't have to install the app specific to the site, you can find a privacy-respecting one.

alwayslikethis4• 3 years ago

SMS has even more privacy concerns. To be able to receive SMS, the network must know your location. You are also forced to use proprietary firmware for most radio components. SMS is also subject to attacks against the telecom, such as by tricking their staff into producing a new sim card with your number.

granshaw• 3 years ago

For the average user, yes, yes they are

kevin_thibedeau• 3 years ago

See what happens to your authenticator app after a factory reset. It is extremely risky to use them for 2FA. SMS always works.

If this is work related authentication and they expect you to use your personal property to run an app, then you're just playing a role as a puppet in their useless security theater. If your employer was serious about security then you'd be issued a dedicated device for auth.

markdown• 3 years ago

With authenticator apps, if you lose your phone, you lose access to everything. Your life is fucked. With SMS, you just get a new sim (free in my country).

Basically authenticator apps create a much bigger problem than getting hacked, and there's a far greater probability of me losing my phone (has happened before) than getting hacked.

erikerikson• 3 years ago

Everyone with a cell phone has SMS. It's already set up. And it's recoverable plus someone else's problem to recover. Add that's it's a pretty good universal id.

I hate SMS 2FA but it makes sense.

molodec• 3 years ago

The article is describing one type of SMS Fraud, but I think Twitter got attacked using SMS Traffic Pumping Fraud. Twilio has the explanation https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/8360406023067-S...

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

Ah yep - the one I describe is the same as the one Twilio discuss.

lgats• 3 years ago

where can i get a premium sms phone number? ( for research purposes )

waynesonfire• 3 years ago

Good, SMS for auth is terrible. Let me use my yubikey or authentication app.

71a54xd3• 3 years ago

I feel like the easiest workaround is to a) not use an email with your name in it for any important login b) don't use those emails for more than one service c) use a separate SIM and device for 2FA (mint mobile etc) / banking apps that aren't up to speed with non SMS 2fa.

It pains me to say this since Bank of America sucks, but their system now supports adding a Yubikey for login, nearly as good as Schwab before they stopped issuing physical TOTP tokens in 2020.

axelthegerman3• 3 years ago

separate SIM and device for 2FA

Are you really suggesting having 5 different devices with separate SIM cards to receive 2FA messages? What exactly is the point here, just having different numbers? In that case some kind of text message forwarding service that gives you multiple virtual numbers would (still not free but much more reasonable than dealing with multiple devices)

71a54xd3• 3 years ago

Nope, one dedicated device for 2FA. Dedicated email for each account.

csharpminor3• 3 years ago

Another technology to read up on is Silent Network Auth: https://www.twilio.com/blog/silent-network-authentication-sn...

If you operate a mobile app, this allows you to force a data packet over the device’s SIM that the carrier can validate. Platforms like Twilio/Boku have worked with the carriers to provide an API for this.

SMS is completely removed from the process and SMS pumping becomes a non issue.

Another option that could be mentioned in the article is using WhatsApp for OTP delivery. It’s the de facto messaging app in many countries with scketchy carriers, precisely because people don’t enjoy paying 5 cents per SMS.

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

author here: these are great ideas, thank you!

axelthegerman3• 3 years ago

using WhatsApp for OTP delivery. It’s the de facto messaging app in many countries with scketchy carriers

I don't think that would go over very well in the less sketchy countries - I know many folks (myself included) who would be up in arms if a service requires WhatsApp just to send an OTP - in that (and any) case I'd prefer 2FA via authenticator apps

anonymous344• 3 years ago

how is this even possible? must be usa?right?

in finland non-standard numbers must start with different numbers so its easy to block them as invalid.

apuchitnis6• 3 years ago

author here: part of the problem is that there are many countries, each with their own complex scheme for identifying premium numbers. it's not a straight-forward task, though libphonenumber (I believe) aims to make this easier.

tzs2• 3 years ago

OT: what do people do who sign up for a site from their phones or tablets do when the site gives them a QR code to scan to set up TOTP?

I've only ever signed up for such sites from my desktop, so it was easy to use my phone or tablet camera to get the QR code from my desktop's screen.

How do you scan a QR code that is on your phone's screen using your phone?

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