New service injects privacy into social media through scrambled text

http://www.arcticstartup.com/2012/01/09/neko-io-adds-private-sharing-layer-to-social-media

by regandersong • 15 years ago

24 17 15 years ago

"I really like this way of circumventing problems with privacy in social media. Rather than building your own new social media service, it makes much more sense to inject your own privacy features into anything and everything."

I really dislike this methodology. The complexity and friction it introduces excludes the vast majority of people who don't yet, and maybe never will, realise how they would benefit from it.

We need a distributed social network, which can't be taken down, censored or monitored by any organisation or government, which utilises public key crypto for privacy, and which is at least as easy to use as Facebook. An immensely difficult project to tackle, but one that would change the World.

markkum3• 15 years ago

We (Meontrust Inc, the provider of Neko.io and Mepin.com) would be happy to provide public key crypto (PKI) for such a service or project. Neko.io authentication, i.e. Mepin, is based on PKI.

gldalmaso• 15 years ago

You still have to get past the friction to convince people to move away from Facebook and use that service instead.

Instead of focusing on an immensely difficult project, why not focus and a simpler one that will bring to light the privacy issue. Maybe after enough people get sick of posting links to ensure privacy, they'd be more willing to finally let Facebook go in favor of a simpler privacy sensitive service.

funthree2• 15 years ago

be sure to use fountain codes

yalooze3• 15 years ago

Does Diaspora do this? https://joindiaspora.com/ I think that's there goal, or at least something similar.

greenyoda• 15 years ago

Once Facebook hears of this service they'll probably disable linking to it from Facebook, since it takes Facebook users off-site where they can't be fed Facebook's ads. A distributed social network that's not subject to the whims of a single company really seems to be the only way to get control over your privacy.

djbender• 15 years ago

Maybe you shouldn't be using (public) social media then? =/

funthree2• 15 years ago

in 2004/2005 when I signed up for the facebook it was NOT a public site

ohyes• 15 years ago

I seem to remember it being that you could see anyone at your college. Which made it defacto public because strangers had access to your profile. (You had no access control with your profile). As long as I had a college email I could see anyone else's profile if they were at the same college. Networks were college based.

People were up in arms when anyone with an email address could get in and see their stuff. They wanted to expand their market. I think that was 2005. So in response they hacked in some not very good privacy features.

Maybe I am misremembering, however.

yalooze3• 15 years ago

Isn't this what Facebook Friend Lists and Google Plus Circles are for?

kaukopartio12• 15 years ago

Can you use Facebook Friend Lists in Twitter ?

yalooze3• 15 years ago

Obviously not. I believe Twitter is the only platform of the 3 that doesn't have a built in option to do this. It seems a bit like reinventing the wheel to me but perhaps that's because I can't see myself using it. I guess the USP is really cross-platform support?

markkum3• 15 years ago

Not really. Clear text messages on Fb Friend List or G+ Circles are indexed and affects your profile (towards advertizers and others), whereas Neko.io messages are encrypted and truly private. Also, the Neko.io friend list spans across any and all social networks, so you would not need to maintain lists, circles, groups, flocks, etc in various services.

kd12202• 15 years ago

Being the pragmatist that I am: Why bother with public social media if you want to say something in private? Also, from a social behavioral view, this is very rude. It's the online equivalent of 2 or more people in a group switching to speaking another language so someone else in the group can't understand the topic.

markkum3• 15 years ago

Here's an example Neko.io message for you;

"I'm on a meditation trip in India. If you really need to bother me, here's my travel schedule and emergency number; https://neko.io/m/g4hF/xcjZq85lyL9TTAjefE1GLw/xGf_TME2-G9YRl...

Neko.io is a utility. People post links to social networks all the time. The above link might look long and scrambled, but most services are shortening it automatically.

kd12202• 15 years ago

Neko.io looks like it's trying to solve the access control list issues that Facebook has been plagued with since... forever. But it gets no further. It only exports these issues to all social networks.

Watch Zed Shaw's "The ACL is dead" presentation and you'll understand why.

Also it requires yet another non-standard authorization utility (Mepin?) or a separate login. I'm phatigued by phishing.

New service injects privacy into social media through scrambled text

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