Musk’s Twitter reign magnified his brutal management style

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/19/elon-musk-management-style-twitter-tesla-spacex

by xrayarx • 4 years ago

62 85 4 years ago

It would seem to me that it simply revealed his bad behavior when he's angry and/or doesn't respect somebody. He had until now largely successfully hidden this.

user_named• 4 years ago

For those who've been watching its been obvious for years. But this episode is more insane than what's come before.

kranke1552• 4 years ago

He’s pretty crazy low empathy when he doesn’t respect people, and unfortunate my impression is he thought all (or most) the twitter engineers were not worthy of his respect so he nuked them.

rsynnott• 4 years ago

… Really? I mean, see the cave diver incident.

2OEH8eoCRo0• 4 years ago

Musk realizes that his entire wealth and image is propped up by social media and hype so he buys Twitter. I wouldn't be surprised if he himself was funding bots and influencers to hype him and his companies.

davidgerard• 4 years ago

He is indeed doing precisely that https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-04-12/musk-is-of...

memish5• 4 years ago

Here's the best explanation I've seen. It's from https://twitter.com/oliverbcampbell/status/15934343291532451...

I'm going to explain what Elon Musk is likely doing over there at Twitter. This is not a discussion on whether it's RIGHT OR WRONG; just what's happening.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll pop up and say so.

What Elon is engaged in is something called "Whaling and Culling."

First, the "Whaling":

It's a common refrain that you've probably heard at some point or another "10% of people do 90% of the work." That's what that tight 2 week deadline for Twitter Blue was for; he was perfectly aware that it was an unrealistic time frame. It was a test.

By pushing for such an extremely tight deadline, Elon got to see who is actually doing work and who is resting on their laurels. Furthermore, it proved who could actually perform under extreme pressure.

You know, the whole "get this done or you're fired" level of pressure.

Hence, Elon was looking for the whales at the company. The heavy hitting, actually producing and hard people who have been there for a while. When the whales don't have to carry dead weight, they perform like the equivalent of 10 people.

Second is the "Culling." When you've got 90% of the people not performing, they're actually negatively impacting the 10% who ARE performing above and beyond. And that's why the layoffs happened. Paraphrased, 'shit is gonna change around here, get on board or get out'

So by culling unproductive staff, he actually untied the hands of the PRODUCTIVE staff. Fewer obstacles to getting in the way of getting things done. It also revealed to him who was there to make Twitter a better product, versus who was there to be 'activists'.

So now you've chopped your workforce down to people who actually perform, but they're not enough to run everything.

This is why after all those people are let go, there's going to be a surprise hiring of a new bunch of people. Why?

Because the productive people actually know WHAT THEY NEED to get things done. Don't be surprised if the people that are left get to be part of the interviewing process for the new people. They'll be looking for efficiency and people who don't make THEIR jobs more difficult.

So, when you continually slice away the bad portions of something, all that you're left with is 1 of 2 potential outcomes:

1) Nothing usable. It was rotten at the core.

2) Some substantially good bits you can salvage and build on.

Elon is gambling on 2.

This is what he was talking about with 'Twitter 2.0.' It's likely not a 'new twitter.' Not for us. It's a new Twitter INTERNALLY. How things get done, how things get rolled out, rebuilding the company with productive and more efficient people.

What I'm saying is, take a look at the reactions: The people that are staying at twitter are hunkering down and working. The people he let go are the ones calling doom and gloom. And they're not wrong. The way "things were done" is OVER at Twitter.

So, from the outside, this looks like a giant cluster.

But it what's going to surprise you is that a great number of businesses are run exactly like this.

There's a reason layoffs happens every single year across the world. Whaling and culling. Elon is just being VERY VOCAL.

And like I said at the START OF THIS POST. I didn't say this is RIGHT OR WRONG. Just what is likely happening.

But if you never thought about it before, now you have something to think about.

dragontamer3• 4 years ago

"10% of people do 90% of the work."

Those 10% quit the moment they were offered an ultimatum. If you're one of the 10% of people who are holding up a company, you quit when an asshole boss comes around. You got plenty of other companies who you'd rather work for.

If you're an engineer of any caliber, even in this economy, you simply don't have to put up with any of this crap at all. And there's no reason to sign on (or stay on) to a company that treats you like this.

So, when you continually slice away the bad portions of something, all that you're left with is 1 of 2 potential outcomes:

False dichotomy. There's #3.

#3: Everyone who was holding up the company, the "10% who do all the work", switched jobs and is now working for Facebook across the street.

netsharc• 4 years ago

Yeah, grandparent's copy-paste is bullcrap, if you don't believe the cause or the leader, why put in the super effort? Especially if it looks like the "leader" starts with a "You're all my enemy" attitude, and he still hasn't put out a roadmap to greatness (he's made a lot of dirty laundry public, is he keeping the roadmap a secret?)

Yeah "Want to go hardcore, click 'Yes'.". Hardcore to where, doofus?

kevinventullo• 4 years ago

Under different circumstances I would find #3 more plausible, but Facebook itself just laid off a bunch of people and pretty much all the big tech cos have frozen hiring. So, finding another job that pays as well as Twitter hasn’t been harder since 2008.

user1029384756• 4 years ago

#3: Everyone who was holding up the company, the "10% who do all the work", switched jobs and is now working for Facebook across the street

You mean Meta? The company that froze hiring and just laid off 11,000 employees?

stuckinhell• 4 years ago

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592976585858351105

Some engineers like George Hotz seem onboard with the new approach. I have no doubt some there are a couple hundred talented developers in the USA who would not only be fine, but enjoy the challenge.

My company has a "special operations task force" of disagreeable highly technical 10x to 100x engineers who come onto failing projects, fix them, and leave. These guys enjoy (almost unbelievably) extremely hard projects, and working 18-20 hr days to fix messes. They once took over a conference room for 2 weeks, and slept and showered in the company while fixing a major product.

I'm a manager for a high performance team but not that high performance. I have list of at least 100 names of high profile performance developers we keep an eye on.

morelisp2• 4 years ago

Maybe this is what Musk thinks he’s doing, but he’s not. I’ve seen this done; it’s much more formalized, rapid, and surgical. (And still rarely works, with a high human cost.)

fnordpiglet3• 4 years ago

I’ve been leading small and large organizations at small and ginormous enterprises, I’ve founded my own and grown them with bad and great exits, and that’s after a long career as one of those 10% engineers wherever I went. Ive worked in social, e-commerce, fintech, fundamental tech, and others. I’ve never had need for work, and in every recession I’ve been essential. That’s not a bragging point but a point of context. I’ve had the chance to watch first hand the dynamics of productivity, who makes what, who is needed and who is redundant, and I’ve made a lot of agonizing decisions in this space. Some haunt me at night to this day.

This idea of 10% and 90% is fundamentally wrong. It’s like saying the only meaningful part of a gear system is the meshing teeth. That’s after all where all the magic happens. But the interior of the gear is importing to position the teeth correctly. Where the gear attaches is more crucial - you can function fine with a few broken teeth but if the attachment is too tight or too lose it won’t work. More importantly the empty space in the system is crucial to the function.

I think the ratio is generally reversed - 90% of the people are making the magic happen, and 10% are redundant. It’s true there’s always a small percentage of folks that demonstrate remarkable effectiveness, but they can’t do that without the rest of the team essentially carrying out the work they are too valuable to be distracted from. They provide the cover, the headroom, and while the exceptional performers are force multipliers, there must be a force to multiply. They can’t multiply themselves alone. A good manager knows how to integrate those people into the rest of the gear system such that their force multiplication is magnified to its maximum. But the force itself is not redundant.

Due to their rarity the force multiplying engineers make more money and receive outsized recognition. The same is true for say a star quarterback (I know nothing about sportsball fwiw). The quarterback is famous and compensated better than the rest of the team if they’re amazing. But they can’t win the game alone.

The other thing to note about exceptional engineers, which I modestly count myself as one after many years of impostor syndrome, they can’t stand bullshit and absurd decision making. They also respect and even love their coworkers and team and will go to no end to see them individually successful. They are generally not mercenaries nor are they obsessively driven by a vision at all cost. There are very competent engineers who are like that. But they tend to be poisonous to the team and largely ineffectual because they’re not force multipliers. More than anything, no one trusts them - not even other engineers like them. They usually get stuck midcareer and either become bitter and withdrawn or end up as the star at some small shop that couldn’t afford a truly amazing engineer.

Now, I don’t work at twitter and never have. They might not be a serious engineering shop and his strategy is to dynamite the existing culture and rebuild it as a more serious engineering shop. But that won’t be successful if he can’t recognize the value of the 90%. And he shouldn’t fool himself that his force multipliers clicked yes. He ended up with people in precarious personal situations that can’t afford to lose their job and mercenaries that were bitter how they were marginalized while the force multipliers were magnified.

He will have a lot of rebuilding, and building of trust once lost is the hardest to rebuild of all. These events can haunt recruiting efforts for decades.

paradox242• 4 years ago

This is an insight that I think most closely hews to the the reality of the current situation at Twitter, and at larger companies in general. There is a need for people at all levels of skill and competency because there are tasks and problems at all levels of difficulty and importance. It's essential to ensure your organization is matching the right people to the right problems, and that your leadership is creating the right incentives so that this happens more often than not.

This is incredibly difficult and I think more represents the ideal, rather than a consistently achievable reality (at least I have never actually seen this in my own experience). Inevitably your upper leadership becomes infiltrated and then taken over by people who's primary skill is gaming the system of incentives. Once entrenched, they are difficult if not impossible to remove, and jealously gatekeep against anyone more competent that might threaten their position from below. New ideas and reforms are seen as threats, as most of the leadership is only interested in these things to the extent that they might provide an opportunity to increase their own social status, wealth, or power. In a company, this is takes on the form of the depressingly banal, but it is as true at the highest levels of power in every state and such things are behind many of the human-initiated catastrophes we see throughout recorded history.

To your point about the 90/10 ratio, I really don't get the sense that Elon thinks this way at all, however. I also agree that I don't think he is really getting the people he wants. As you said, those that would be most likely to stay under these circumstances are those who can't really go somewhere else (like those with a visa) or who are workaholics. Neither of these neatly intersect with the group of productive and skilled engineers and support staff. Instead of gross competency you are selecting for the desperate and the pathological.

memish5• 4 years ago

That's a thoughtful response, but I think you're being misguided by your kindness. I get it, I would vouch for the 90% in my workplace.

This is why most of us could never be in the kind of position like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. They see things for what they are and make the cold calculations. They still make mistakes but are directionally correct.

Power laws like the Pareto principle assert themselves unless you actively push against them. Twitter was not. Everyone knew they were overstaffed for years. The 50% cut when Elon took over had little effect. They were not a lean machine where the 90% were pulling the weight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

LadyCoconut• 4 years ago

Strongly agree with this! To add my own experience to this -- one of my close friends work in a gold mine. Her official job is a certain amount of tasks that she does competently, but isn't the best at.

What she also ended up doing is to smooth over tense situations between very competent people who are working in a high-stake environment where the urge to lash out/to fight for your vision above others' is getting increasingly strong as fatigue sets in.

That value isn't written down in her performance review. Yet, she's diffused a number of conflicts, allowing easier/quicker resolution of issues in a business where a mistake can (will) cost thousands of dollars. Because she's more approachable than her cross-shift, her subordinates are also more susceptible to ask her if they don't know something, instead of doing a potentially costly mistake or letting suboptimal situations carry on.

Personal skill-wise, she's not a magical 10% -- she's decently skilled, still learning her trade. However, she does help multiply everyone's performance.

As parent said, a gear needs many parts to turn.

tedunangst• 4 years ago

What an insane theory. What was the payroll department supposed to do get twitter blue done on time?

capitalsigma3• 4 years ago

There's no way this stuff like "office closed lol nevermind 3 hour deadline to get to the office" is anything other than him either: (a) throwing a tantrum because something has pissed him off in this process and he wants to publicly exert authority, or (b) intentionally trying to push headcount down to 0 so that he can say something like "welp, guess I'll just have to fold Twitter into Tesla and have the FSD people maintain it as a side project"

memish5• 4 years ago

How confident are you those are the only 2 options possible?

matthewdgreen2• 4 years ago

Oh hell he is going to do this, isn’t he. Guess I’d better give up on ever getting that beta.

vehementi• 4 years ago

This garbage was appropriately torn apart in the twitter thread already

Sad to see someone so non understanding add the "ah yes the people who are 10x as strong as others, just only held back" shtick and then to see it echoed as "yes, I think that IS what is going on"

rybosome5• 4 years ago

This is a silly analysis. I reject the premise that 10% of people are the hard workers, held back by the 90%.

This is someone who believes they are part of the 10% failing to see the value of the 90%, arrogantly mistaking their own ignorance for insight.

memish5• 4 years ago

Most people would reject it. That's understandable.

John Carmack and George Hotz have a different perspective.

tkiolp42• 4 years ago

"10% of people do 90% of the work."

As others have said, that 10% has already left. If you know your value, you simply don’t accept bad working conditions (i.e., 100% on-site work, long working hours, etc.)

That 10% will have zero problems finding a decent job.

preommr• 4 years ago

Every situation is unique and real-life is flexible - elements of his "style" can probably work.

What's questionable is the objectively bad lead up to the current situation. It's one thing to overhaul a company - it's another to massively over pay for a company, be under immense pressure from added debt, and then fire a whole bunch of people in a very short amount of time.

There's no question here that he would've been better off starting his own company, building up experience while burning a few hundred million, and then buying out twitter at 20bn. He was on the board, he knew what the company was like, he had direct connections with important figures like Dorsey, he had all the information necessary to know that he wanted to make such sweeping changes.

dclusin2• 4 years ago

Your suggestion at the end assumes he can predict the future wrt to the collapse of twitters market cap at the time he made the acquisition offer. The reality is he made a binding decision that he was stuck with that looks terrible in hindsight.

I do agree that he could have handled the situation a lot better. But some things are outside his control.

amanaplanacanal• 4 years ago

Since the company is privately held, I'm not sure what market cap has to do with it. This is entirely about debt and profitability.

nobodyandproud• 4 years ago

His approach works for a mission driven products like Tesla or Space-X.

Both were started at the right times yet it’s not obvious whether the engineering would’ve happened without his at-all-costs method and the vision/mission driving it.

Even then everyone understood the enormous pressures the workers were under but one could admire what was being acheived as the trailblazer.

I just don’t see any vision or mission to admire for Twitter especially with Musk at the helm.

theptip• 4 years ago

I think this is the right take. If you assemble a team around the vision to colonize Mars, you will get a bunch of amazing people that are (for a while) willing to put up with crazy work.

Trying to force this on an existing culture will be hard, and doing the “extreme pressure” bit with no vision beyond “more free speech” seems impossible.

Maybe he will get there and in a few months the remainder will have coalesced around the joy of shipping good features fast. But things like labor laws and the FCC consent decree will provide a strong legacy drag.

capitalsigma3• 4 years ago

Also, like, it's plausible that working long hours and pushing hard for progress kind of makes sense when you're doing cutting edge stuff, pushing the boundary of what's possible, etc. It's unclear why you would need that attitude to run a mature social media site.

EMIRELADERO• 4 years ago

But things like labor laws and the FCC consent decree will provide a strong legacy drag.

You know you're on the "bad side" when labor laws are computed as a nuisance.

memish5• 4 years ago

He's definitely not communicating the vision as well as he did with Tesla or SpaceX.

That's a serious problem. But he has said the plan is to turn it into X, the everything app. Like WeChat.

Zigurd4• 4 years ago

Before y'all say "his style works at Tesla and SpaceX" just take a look under the shiny image.

There are reasons $TSLA is down by half and is still over-valued: Look at the bulls like ARK. Their short-medium term projections for Tesla are 60% based on the value of robotaxis, which is currently a $0B business at Tesla.

The majority of mass SpaceX has lifted to orbit is Starlink sats. They have saturated the market of outside customers and they have to generate their own demand. To value SpaceX at $150B, you have to believe that, unlike every other attempt ever, this time LEO internet will make money.

s1artibartfast7• 4 years ago

Those are questions of total market demand for the product. In those companies, it still seems that his ownership and management style got products built that dominated their respective markets. Falcon ate the competition and teslas are like 70% of EVs

Overvalued market caps are good for the company, bad for late investors. It means the company received much more funds than they otherwise would have. A huge win for the CEO, and early investors.

If you have a startup with a true value of 1B, but sell shares at a 100B valuation, this is a huge win for you and the company

SilverBirch2• 4 years ago

The obvious point is it’s not exactly impressive to dominate a market that everyone else realises is uneconomical. The key is his PR managed to produce massive overvaluation in a ZIRP environment. But then what we’re really saying is we’re impressed by the PR not the engineering.

Zigurd4• 4 years ago

I completely agree that an overpriced valuation can be good, or at least useful. To make a new car company viable, and, remarkably, doing only organic growth, is a huge accomplishment. Tesla's valuation was an important tool to enable that to happen. I'm not going to be a prude about tech hype.

But that does not make Cathie Wood right, or prevent Starship from being the Space Spruce Goose (say it three times).

Bubble_Pop_22• 4 years ago

If you have a startup with a true value of 1B, but sell shares at a 100B valuation, this is a huge win for you and the company

This stuff doesn't happen organically. It needs constant self-promotion and over-exageration of everything that the company does. And in turn such culture starts from the top. Musk is no 80s rockstar. He has no manager dragging him to do media, it's him who does media on his own volition to self-promote himself.

I could care less what's best for Musk and Tesla. I care what's best for me. In this case the consumer. Consumers are using many times per day the products and services of all the other top 50 companies in the Sp500. You look at the stats about penetration of Tesla cars and it's basically none, nobody is using them except for rich people in rich areas.

There are 1.6bn cars in the world and Teslas are some 2 millions? The backbone of the industrial economy. Not.

Koch Industries provided American consumers with way more quality of life than Musk ever will. The sane people who could care less about politics, techno-utopian hope, Mars and all the other unsubstantiated stuff that Musk sells, have no probelm admitting this simple fact.

matthewdgreen2• 4 years ago

Musk’s style is “bad for investors, good for Musk” until Musk is the investor and decides to pay a large multiple of a company’s real value on a whim. Now he needs Twitter to be profitable enough to cover the debt, while also preserving his reputation with future investors in his other companies.

renewiltord• 4 years ago

Prediction: we'll see a lot of small issues that don't matter. Copy writing will go to shit, notification numbers won't show up, website may even go down for an hour. Everyone will claim that this is because the best engineers left.

The company will stay up and the app will work fine ultimately. Everyone will claim this is because the best engineers who left wrote unbreakable code.

s1artibartfast7• 4 years ago

Even if they Did write unbreakable code, that doesn't mean they were still necessary. It just means they did a good job.

skinnymuch• 4 years ago

The last sentence wouldn’t happen. As if nothing else happens until then and workers aren’t worked so much harder than is sane. Good luck with your prediction.

tracerbulletx• 4 years ago

In the united states people need jobs to have health care and exist without living on the streets. Not every job can be a maximally efficient non-stop grind, that sounds like a hell scape. There needs to be a bench, back fills, slack. Places where people show up, put in their work, go home, and the company makes money. Granted that only works for profitable places that can both pay back their equity holders, and provide an environment for employees. However it's sad to see people act like creating "nice" places to work is a bad thing or a weakness. You can do both.

scarecrowbob• 4 years ago

There are important reasons why slack is a main goal of the Church of the Subgenius.

nxmnxm992• 4 years ago

Lazy people are the loudest. The ambitious hard workers remain at Twitter.

rybosome5• 4 years ago

This narrative that all the lazy whiners have been ousted and only the good, hard workers remain is ignorant.

A lot of hardworking, smart people are gone.

nxmnxm992• 4 years ago

Sure, that doesn't disqualify the fact that mostly the lazy people left.

Woeps• 4 years ago

This seems like a pretty loud statement to make ;)

djitz• 4 years ago

It has been really interesting to see just how emotional people are about this purchase, and seemingly Musk in general.

papito2• 4 years ago

People calling out an objectively clear dumpster fire are not the ones being "emotional". Words like that and also "hysterical" can only be applied to the new CEO.

ilrwbwrkhv• 4 years ago

I don't think his management style is brutal.

I think it is quite surprising how little people work at a job.

In most companies, you can get rid of 50% of the company and things will still keep running and even improve.

He just wants people to do a good job. Is that too much to ask?

Add in the general leftist messaging which are popular in tech companies about mental health and taking time off, it is quite easy for those who want to take advantage of it to not work really hard and hide and keep getting a fat paycheque for a really long time.

The amount of money tech workers get paid is ridiculous. Compared to a librarian let's say. Do you think a tech worker is working as hard as a librarian? Hell no.

So I think its time to make sure that the work matches up to the hundreds of thousands of dollars they are taking home every year.

Aside: I really hate how news has become opinion pieces. "Brutal management style" is an opinion. The news should report the news. "X happened at Y". I have seen a lot of this lately. "X happened. This should make you angry." Don't tell me how to feel or second derivatives of events. Just present the event.

usednet• 4 years ago

I think its very funny how you note that you can get rid of half the employees at most companies with no effect and then attack “leftist messaging.” One would imagine that market competition would immediately eliminate such inefficiencies. I suggest you read some Graeber.

atoav• 4 years ago

In most companies, you can get rid of 50% of the company and things will still keep running and even improve.

Maybe. But you have to take a few months to figure out which 50% if you have half a braincell. Especially if it is a complicated company in field outside your expertise, which for Elon this is (although he might have seen this different when taking over).

By this point you could have picked up a random person on the street and they easily would have done a better job than mister impulsive over there.

I mean the guy accidentally bought a company — a company to whose product he is addicted to. My speculation how that happened: his right leaning followers got constantly banned, so he wanted to proof to then, that the liberal snowflakes at Twitter HQ will not take his generous offer because they are against free speech and have political motives. So his prediction was that they would say no, because in his mind that is who they are and he could then take this No as ammunition to his followers. But the twitter people were not lefty liberals but mostly business people and so they said yes and from that point onwards everything mister impulsive did was pure and utter panic.

What we have observed here is not how someone in control looks like, even if we generously assume he is pretending not to be in control for stupid 12-dimensional chess reasons us mere mortals are just too simple to understand. He is giving orders people will not follow, that makes him look weak. He makes impulsive decisions he has to wheel back hours later. He wants screenshots of source code to make hiring ad firing decisions.

You could literally make a wet towel the CEO of Twitter and it would be running better than under him.

And even if we generously assumed that this is part of an painful restructuring the company might have needed, nobody remotly in control would plan to do it that way in a company that relies on money it gets from advertising and has workers who are heavily sought after and can literally pick a new job hours later if they choose to do so.

rybosome5• 4 years ago

It is surreal that people think he is doing any of this purposefully.

He sent out an email saying all offices were closing immediately due to his concerns of being sabotaged, then a few hours later sent another email that software engineers needed to meet with him in person the following day, even asking remote people to fly in immediately.

That’s chaos, but his sycophants are so devoted they’ll delude themselves into thinking this is genius.

prirun• 4 years ago

He just wants people to do a good job. Is that too much to ask?

No, but that's not what he has asked for. What he asked for is this:

----- From: Elon Musk

To: Team [at Twitter]

Subj. A Fork in the Road

Date: Nov. 16, 2022 [time stamp removed]

Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:

[Link removed]

Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance. -----

Doing a good job is a very different request from "extremely hardcore", "long hours at high intensity", and "only exceptional performance counts". It's especially onerous to ask people to commit to this without specific details (weekends too? I assume yes), no mention of pay raises for working more hours, no mention of equity rewards (in fact, they were getting equity and now aren't, which is effectively a pay cut), no severance agreement to review before deciding, and 1 day to decide. Brutal fits IMO.

kamaal• 4 years ago

In all honesty, this doesn't look all that bad to me. And it feels what a new boss would say to rally people around his cause.

Every company/boss has this sort of management speak 101 sort of speeches they give. I think Amazon also has some principle of management which they told me during the interview which was basically the corporate speak 101 sort of material. In my own experience I've heard quite a bit of these boss speeches.

These are not the things you quit for. You just neglect it and do you job. There is no management police who walks around the cubicle like a beat cop to enforce this.

pieresqi• 4 years ago

The amount of musky ass lickers here is staggering.

rybosome5• 4 years ago

He’s an alpha nerd among beta nerds.

The same people who think Rick of Rick and Morty is a hero worship Musk, for the same reason - because his intelligence is (supposedly) so astronomical that he is no longer bound by decency or morality.

papito2• 4 years ago

This is HackerNews for you. Call out any of these magnates for their lack of moral compass or incompetence, and get downvoted. Somehow being rich and "successful" automatically makes your shit not stink, even though usually the opposite is true. This is how they make their money - by being assholes and walking over people. You can acknowledge it but I don't get the admiration of this sociopathy.

entropicgravity• 4 years ago

Musk was abused by his father and so he feels entitled to abuse others. Or it's just genetic, hard to say.

ml_more• 4 years ago

It is ironic that the guy who wanted to build a free speech platform cannot tolerate criticism.

mlindner• 4 years ago

It's interesting that these news media people are already writing in the past tense. Twitter's alive and working well.

Musk’s Twitter reign magnified his brutal management style

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