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by gnosis • 15 years ago

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hollerith2• 15 years ago

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gnunet -- why such an ugly URL?

Bad enough that the less ugly style of URL has the unnecessary /wiki/ in it.

rbanffy• 15 years ago

Why focus on the least relevant aspect of the whole thing? Did you even read what this is about? What it does, how and why?

hollerith2• 15 years ago

Yes.

Andrenid• 15 years ago

This is just a wiki article explaining it, the URL is irrelevant here. The actual website for the project is https://gnunet.org/

csarva• 15 years ago

This is how links are rendered on Wikipedia's SSL server. The standard non-SSL page is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnunet

canadaduane• 15 years ago

Does anyone else feel repulsed by the name itself? Every time I see GNU something, I think "extreme ideology with an ugly name". Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for what GNU did in the 80s and 90s, and I think it still has value (albeit, I think middle way approaches such as creative commons, MIT, Apache License, and others have won the popular geek mind for now). But IMHO, they need to rebrand.

aphexairlines2• 15 years ago

> creative commons, MIT, Apache License, and others have won the popular geek mind for now

Nope, GPL variants are still the most popular licenses: http://www.blackducksoftware.com/oss/licenses#top20

sjs2• 15 years ago

I think you misunderstood canadaduane's point. There's no denying that a lot of popular open source software is not GPL these days.

Chromium, Rails, Ruby, Python, PHP, Riak, jQuery, SproutCore, basically everything from Apache and Mozilla including Firefox and CouchDB, etc.

There are exceptions like MySQL and MongoDB but they are exactly that, exceptions. Some of them are big ones such as Linux distros, I'm not saying there isn't a lot of existing GPL software out there today. I'd like to see license stats from BitBucket, Google Code, and Github.

foob• 15 years ago

When I see GNU I think of gsl, gcc, screen, emacs, lilypond, bash, and the core-utils which are all incredible pieces of software that I use every day. The FSF arguably might not always make the best decisions in how they represent themselves but GNU is a "brand" built on awesome free and open source software more than anything else. Additionally, the "extreme ideology" that you mention fits in pretty nicely with the purpose of this software so the name should be somewhat fitting if that's how you feel.

pnathan• 15 years ago

No.

The right way to do things is not a popularity contest. Nor should it ever be. Nor should you put pressure on someone trying to do right via an appeal to popularity.

andrewflnr• 15 years ago

When success depends on gaining mindshare, branding and perception is important. A straight popularity contest is, indeed, not the right way to do things, but popularity is a factor.

Confusion• 15 years ago

An extreme ideology I can understand, and approve of, others pursuing, even when I'm much more pragmatically inclined. They may not be right, but they're certainly not wrong either and that's worth fighting for.

I'd trust GNUnet over Freenet, simply because I 'know' the organisation behind it.

aw3c2• 15 years ago

That is a shame but I can understand it as it feels the same to me with Apple products.

Fice• 15 years ago

I see Microsoft (and probably some other companies) behind the decline of popularity of GPL. They invented the term "viral license" back in 2001. The reason why Microsoft is fighting against GPL while sponsoring non-copyleft open-source projects (Apache) is that GPL software is relatively immune to "Embrace, extend and extinguish" strategy, so they are trying to replace it with the kind of open-source they know how to deal with.

scommab• 15 years ago

Does anyone know how this compares to Freenet? The FAQ talks about it a bit [ https://gnunet.org/faq/10 ] but for example, I don't understand what "Economics" means in this context?

StuffMaster• 15 years ago

With Freenet, you allocate storage, and content gets distributed throughout the network based on popularity. It's designed so that it is impossible to know what is in even your own store. Files must be "inserted". You can't really perform a search.

If GNUnet is like other file sharing, you share files while you are online, responding to searches and transferring files that are requested.

flatulent1• 15 years ago

Yes. It is also worth mentioning that GNUnet is designed to be a secure framework, making it more than just the core of another P2P program. For instance it potentially might be used as the basis for other functions such as chat or VoIP without reinventing all of the low-level transport stuff. With GPL licensing it is likely to evolve as people imagine new enhancements.

Short and giving a clue as to function and freedom the name seems a good choice to me. The (GNU) GPL insures that the users and community will not be restricted from making their own fixes or enhancements. I think it is misleading when some refer to a permissive license as restrictive. You're given permission to do practically anything to the code for your own use, and basically have permission to distribute it to others too as long as you DON'T impose new restrictions on them.

turbojerry• 15 years ago

You might also want to check out Mute, which uses ant based routing-

http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/

tmaly• 15 years ago

If only some social replacement for FB could be layered on this, it would be great for privacy.

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