Sun.com Will Disappear After June 1

http://blogs.sun.com/OTNGarage/entry/sun_com_will_disappear_after

by there • 15 years ago

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joebananas• 15 years ago

Kinda sad. It's the twelfth oldest .com. Registered on the 19th of mars 1986.

cletus• 15 years ago

For reference, 100 oldest domain names:

http://www.whoisd.com/oldestcom.php

nkassis• 15 years ago

Oracle doesn't seem to give a crap about history here. There takeover strategy has always been to try to destroy the old brand of the company and absorb what is left.

Sad sad end for a iconic company.

AgentConundrum2• 15 years ago

Wow. I was just shy of two weeks old when the oldest domain was registered.

I suppose it says something about my generation and our view of technology to consider that the internet has simply always been there for us.

wazoox2• 15 years ago

I don't get it. Currently www.sun.com redirects to some oracle.com page, just like www.digital.com redirects to hp.com. What will be the change exactly? Some parts of the site will disappear, but the current site already has little in common with what was sun.com before the acquisition.

sjs• 15 years ago

If sun.com is decommissioned then it will no longer be in service, i.e. it will not even redirect.

VMG• 15 years ago

But it will still belong to oracle, right? Otherwise it will be a available to the market again.

wazoox2• 15 years ago

Doesn't make sense. Why anyone in his right mind would do that?

MediaBehavior• 15 years ago

It's sort of like the new wife (husband) clearing the home of all pics/references_to the ex. Or maybe:

...of the ex. whom she killed. :)

Completely to be expected from people bent on total domination.

grigy• 15 years ago

But why? Oh I know. Oracle is trying to make money on everything. They may try to sell the domain name.

dholowiski• 15 years ago

Why not, it must be worth a small fortune.

aj700• 15 years ago

http://playground.sun.com/

this may go too, or disappear into different parts of oracle.com, so have a look at it now.

swombat• 15 years ago

I had a look. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to find of interest there? Some printer drivers on a page that looks like it was built in 1996?

th• 15 years ago

It was made in 1996: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/19961225213604/http://playg...

ashconnor• 15 years ago

They could sell to the British tabloid, might raise some revenue.

adrianwaj• 15 years ago

http://thesunalsosets.com/Editorials.html -- "This writer started this website on September 1, 2003, with a mission of removing Scott McNealy as CEO of SUN Microsystems. With the help of many of my readers, this goal was accomplished on April 21, 2006. One reader asked, "…having achieved your goal against all odds , why don’t you just declare victory, close your website, and end your other activities related to SUN?" My answer is to do so would leave SUN continuing in the same direction. To quote Shakespeare, 'The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars but in ourselves.' We cannot allow McNealy to continue his failed policies and practices by letting him use his hand-picked puppet on a string continue to lead SUN Microsystems."

dotcoma• 15 years ago

Sun: we were the dot in .com

ChuckMcM2• 15 years ago

Get is right, "Sun, we're the dot in oracle.com" :-)

socksy• 15 years ago

Is there really any good reason for this, or is it just asserting dominance? I know it's often ignored, but I think with a site as important (and as entrenched in links around the web) as Sun's old site really should heed this:

http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html

prodigal_erik• 15 years ago

It was a serious and looming mistake for the web to rely so critically on the identities of content publishers, because it gives some knuckle-dragger in marketing a motivation to break working URLs for pure branding reasons. This could be a valuable service for someone like archive.org, a view of the web as if everyone were competent stewards of their namespaces.

drinian• 15 years ago

Considering Oracle's MO, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to wipe out the Internet Archive's backup of Sun webpages for copyright reasons. Sigh.

metageek• 15 years ago

>It was a serious and looming mistake for the web to rely so critically on the identities of content publishers

How else are you going to make a decentralized identifier?

KaeseEs• 15 years ago

Wonder if this will break anything hardcoded to point to java.sun.com/foo

ChuckMcM2• 15 years ago

Interesting, I wonder what this means for the naming scheme for Java classes.

bane5• 15 years ago

Note to self, when designing a future language, don't use impermanent and perishable domain names for namespaces.

bartonfink2• 15 years ago

It's not a bad idea as far as conventions go. It makes it fairly easy for nearly anybody to distribute interoperable software without having to either register with Sun/Oracle for some sort of key or to deal with the possibility of collisions. I think it's a pretty smart decision to piggyback atop an already extant naming system. Further, it's just a convention - there's nothing in the language design that requires that packages use your own domain names or even domain names at all.

There are plenty of legitimate gripes to have with Java, but I'm not sure that their namespacing decision is one of them.

hnfwerr• 15 years ago

Not unexpected from Oracle... I wonder if their management == Yahoo's ?

va_coder• 15 years ago

Oracle is a classic case where being first was everything. In Oracle's case, being first in number of databases sold.

I am on a new project in an 'enteprisey' environment and a decision was made to use Oracle database simply because that's what most people know.

Oracle became dominant (for a generation) -> lot's of dba's learned Oracle -> now many (in 2011) still choose it because that's all they know.

mathgladiator• 15 years ago

Seems like a bad idea from an SEO perspective.

callumjones• 15 years ago

Do you think Oracle needs SEO? They're quite popular on their own.

bane5• 15 years ago

Yeah, those registration fees and redirects are back breaking expenses.

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