Teaching My Daughter To Code

http://blogs.kent.ac.uk/mik/2008/01/20/teaching-my-daughter-to-code/

by muriithi • 16 years ago

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jluxenberg• 16 years ago

Reminds me of Turtle Graphics from Logo ( http://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/logo/turtle.html ). Interesting that programming at this basic level has been unchanged for so long...I guess that means we got it right at the beginning!

anarchitect• 16 years ago

I have fond memories of using Turtle in primary school. It had much more of a positive impact on me than re-typing code from a book into my Amstrad CPC-6128!

Luyt• 16 years ago

A long time ago, I also made these kinds of programs. That was on a PET 2001, and I didn't have the luxury of bitmaps back then. I would use the PET's graphic characters as 'actors', and POKE them to the video memory. It started with simple balls, but soon my 'actors' grew into sprites made up from multiple characters (with a square, a few line graphics and a ball you could make a little fellow). POKEing all these characters from BASIC became a bit slow, and that was the moment I started learning machine language (necessity is the mother of invention), and from then on I wrote my PET games in 6502 assembly. That made them blindingly fast! (And very prone to crashing, too ;-)

obsessive1• 16 years ago

My first (real) programming experience was with PHP when I was 14. Before that, I fiddled around with a bit of flash and ActionScript. I found it so much easier to learn by actually having a project and working out how to make it a reality as opposed to just reading about it in a book.

homonculus• 16 years ago

I'm 15 and using PHP. It is very satisfying to use, especially after the depression and boredom of school.

I wish I had started younger, the way some of these other kids did.

spektom• 16 years ago

Brad Fitzpatrick says in "Coders at Work" that his father taught him to program when he was 5 years old.

Cushman• 16 years ago

I was learning C when I was six years old. Definitely helped that my older brother (then 11) was the one teaching me— I wonder if having young children learn from older children might be good advice in general?

binomial• 16 years ago

It's possible great advice. See these two TED Talks by Sugata Mitra for evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRb7_ffl2D0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk60sYrU2RU

ig1• 16 years ago

I first coded when I was about the same age, but at that point it was mostly type out programs from magazines and making minor tweaks (this was in Atari Basic). When I was 9-10 I was writing my own simple games in Amiga Basic and later CanDo. When I was 13 I started learning K&R C and then later Quest-C (A VB like tool for C).

I remember there was one other kid in my year at school who was better at C than me at the time, so I don't think I was that unusual.

I think it easy to underestimate what kids are capable of.

jlees2• 16 years ago

I was typing out BASIC programs when I was around 6, got to love growing up with the Spectrum/C64 and the wonderful BBC Micro. I think it worked well; I still remember it being so magical (a since overused word sadly), and a lot of my early tweaking was PEEKing and POKEing around in games to cheat.

The OP has it right -- if you're doing something you want (building a Dr Who game, changing your high score, turning all the baddies into strawberries, making a spider run around the screen to scare your mum) that's the best, dare I say only, way to learn.

Having said this, nobody at my school could program at all (despite the BBC's best efforts). I didn't learn "real" programming until university; web scripting and PHP before that. Maybe that's why I'm such a hacky coder even now.

fsniper• 16 years ago

This reminds me the story that my deceased father told me. Once upon a time when the c64's reigned in Turkey, He asks me to write down some of the programs distributed with Commodore magazines. Yes, these magazines consisting of 5-6 pages full of GW-Basic code and which are mostly incorrect or incomplete :) And he adds, "Than you who never stands up from the desk did not touched the computer at least a month" :)

mattmcknight• 16 years ago

I installed scratch for my daughter, when she was 5. She did a lot of simple things that were like Flash animations. Now that she is 7, she is creating some more complex games, and tons of ideas for games. We've been messing around with Google App Inventor for Android as well, which uses the same framework. She does a lot of MS Office work in school, including Excel formulas, but they don't seem to tackle actual coding early enough.

Our next projects will probably involve doing some web development and then perhaps Mindstorms.

My first experience in programming was reverse engineering the programs that ran on the TRS-80 we had at school to change the names of the characters in the exercises to be other kids and teachers and allow me to get the high scores on the games. It's a little harder to imagine people starting that way with the complexity of a lot of the software that we interact with, but I tried to give her a flavor for that by modifying some of the image files that came with the games she has installed.

kadavy• 16 years ago

I think it's a good strategy to start with something like Flash. Personally, as I was learning to complement my design skills with programming skills, Flash was a great entry point because it was fun.

It's much more motivating if, by writing a couple of lines of code, you can make a ball bounce - than, say, publishing text or solving math problems.

(at the not-so-tender age of 23)

giantsquid• 16 years ago

Should of used dependency injection

ianp• 16 years ago

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nhangen• 16 years ago

This is cool. My son is 8 and I'm trying to get him interested in learning code, but right now he can't draw the line between code and the games he plays.

jlees2• 16 years ago

Find a game where you can easily edit a save file, map file or high score table and let him poke about in it...

Teaching My Daughter To Code

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