Nvidia's Hackintosh Support Is an Insurgency Against Apple's Computers

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nvidia-titan-xp-hackintosh

by ptrptr • 9 years ago

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ap462• 9 years ago

Once the Pascal drivers come out, no spec upgrade from Apple to the Mac Pro lineup will pull people back from making their own Hackintoshes with 1060/80(Ti) & going nuts with rendering or machine learning applications!

Cheaper hardware with top of the line specs, upgradeability & compatibility with Windoze, *NIX & macOS.

Shivetya• 9 years ago

Might not pull people back but this could be a clear indication that the next Mac Pro will have user changeable hardware which is a step back in the right direction.

mbell• 9 years ago

Once the Pascal drivers come out

It was released last week, though still considered a beta.

tmikaeld4• 9 years ago

I've had no issues at all with my 1080 Ti, running 3x screens at 1440P and CUDA with latest version works perfectly stable.

jacquesm3• 9 years ago

Or they might switch to Linux where that all 'just works'.

sqeaky2• 9 years ago

For those who think this is sarcasm, the last update to the nVidia drivers fixed most of my issues on Ubuntu. I only have a 980 and not doing machine learning professionally, but this thing handles any game I throw at it.

ap462• 9 years ago

Yeah that's fine too. But for those with development work that entails Xcode usage, constant OS switching & time spent managing files & using (some great) apps is better served with macOS.

binarycrusader• 9 years ago

I think this is an overly optimistic view. While the new nVidia drivers might support newer cards, they don't update the severely outdated OpenGL 4.1 stack, fix any of the bugs in the OpenGL stack, or provide Vulkan support.

In short, it's difficult for me to be excited about this given you'll effectively be using your 2017 nVidia card with 2010 limitations.

Perhaps the story is different for CUDA support, and maybe Metal somewhat makes up for the lack of modern OpenGL support, but this feels more like a pyrrhic victory.

pixel_fcker• 9 years ago

CUDA works just fine. The lack of up-to-date OGL support is a non-issue for most professional applications.

rl3• 9 years ago

This is great. The usual emphatic declarations of listening and caring about customers rings more hollow with every Apple press event that I watch.

Things are messed up when they let a product cycle lapse for 4 years (i.e. Mac Pro) while leaving everyone in the dark the entire time.

mtgx• 9 years ago

I'm still not sure whether this is Nvidia "playing ball" with Apple, or whether this is Nvidia saying to Apple customers "Hey Apple guys, we love you now! Please don't go with AMD!"

H1Supreme• 9 years ago

I found myself asking the same question. Either way, this is great. Going to pick up a 1070 for my hackintosh.

juusto• 9 years ago

Anyone has any tutorials on how to build your own hackintosh with Ryzen+1080?

That would be a time saver. Thanks

phren0logy• 9 years ago

The common wisdom is that support for AMD chips / MBs is sufficiently poor in MacOS that it's probably not a good idea. Check out https://www.tonymacx86.com/

nedsma• 9 years ago

While it's relatively easy to build an Intel based hackintosh, building an AMD based one is a rare occasion, and it's certainly not recommended if one's goal is a stable, production setup. It's always better to buy a Mac or go the Intel route and build one based on tested/community-approved components: https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/april/2017

Good luck!

nik736• 9 years ago

It's not worth the hassle to try Hackintoshing with an AMD CPU

reiichiroh• 9 years ago

The one-word answer would be "don't."

9999• 9 years ago

Nvidia has supported installing their latest cards into old Mac Pros for years now with their web driver. Nothing new. They still have no support for Apple EFI in these cards (meaning the cards have no video output during boot and install of OS updates, making them incredibly inconvenient to use in day to day work).

IMcD23• 9 years ago

They work just fine for OS updates, I just installed one on mine. The only thing you lose is an Apple boot logo.

gableroux• 9 years ago

I used to work on a hackintosh, the support is impressive on tonymacx86. https://www.tonymacx86.com/

ReHabMan is just amazing. It's even easy to get started with all the tutorials. Indeed, the problem I was getting was with nvidia support, mini-display port, multi display in general, video drivers, hybrid video (integrated + discrete card), etc. Everything else was working a bit too well.

It's sad that this is not legit, the community is really awesome. At least this nvidia move with drivers is a good news for the users in general I suppose.

I personally worked on windows back in the days, discovered MacOS, moved to ubuntu, hated all the PPAs, missed the tools I had on mac so gave hackintosh a try, wasn't legit and had lots of troubles with nvidia, moved to arch linux, struggled with lack of nvidia support too (ironic isn't it?) but turned out to work a bit better on Fedora (maybe because I got better with X11, wayland and configs in general) Then someone left at the office and I got his macbook so I moved back to MacOS (my dotfiles are now compatible on all main os and I automated my setup...). I don't think I'll switch again for a while (time consuming, it's a long trip), but this news is really tempting to move back to hackintosh. I have to admit it though, I really enjoyed Fedora :P

atroll• 9 years ago

I've just recently installed macOS Sierra on my ASUS laptop thanks to ReHabMans tutorials, some things took me days to fix like the audio, but you always end up finding the solution in a thread made by that talented guy. The only problem I had was high RAM usage and some other things that need tweaking. edit: mic and cam don't work, this way nobody can spy on me ;)

tmikaeld4• 9 years ago

Can highly recommend Little Snitch as well, if you're not already using it, it's a two-way-per-app-firewall that is user friendly.

You can even block Apples telemetry (Except for information sent before loading the OS).

chatmasta• 9 years ago

Does Xcode and/or the iPhone simulator work?

Hydraulix9895• 9 years ago

It IS nice having Photoshop working in a real UNIX like environment.

cestith3• 9 years ago

If Intuit, Sage, and Adobe got together they could just go ahead and pick a winner among Linux distros on the desktop. The main complaint is always that there are too many to support. Put those three on one, maybe get Activision and EA on board, and whatever they chose would be the defacto standard on the desktop.

kochthesecond• 9 years ago

ReHabMan is a legend. Together with the guy that debugs and fixes Intel CPU powersaving issues.

tmikaeld4• 9 years ago

If Apple now respond with locking out Hackintosh users in any upcoming MacOS update...

Then they'll probably do Microsoft a huge favour in persuading a lot of MacOS users to finally go Windows.

I'd expect my current Hackintosh would last me 3-4 years now that it runs with a 1080 Ti.

Hydraulix9895• 9 years ago

You could also try giving Linux Mint a shot, too. Unlike Ubuntu and Windows 10, you don't deal with copious ads in your file manager and launcher and things like that.

ganoushoreilly• 9 years ago

Only caveat there is to make sure you're ISO's are hacked.

tmikaeld4• 9 years ago

Unfortunately i use After Effects too often.

I'm planning to run Linux, but also run OS X and Windows 10 at the same time using KVM and dedicate a GPU (Via passthrough) for each of these. This way i get the added benefit of not having to reboot to enter Windows, plus i can make snapshots of the entire VM whenever i desire and thus do A/B tests in a "native" environment.

OS X works very well with KVM, so it is certainly doable.

tothepixel• 9 years ago

I've seen exactly one ad (for Onedrive) in Win10 after daily use since it came out. It actually runs stuff too, which is a nice perk to tout over Linux.

draw_down• 9 years ago

But what's the point of owning a "Hackintosh" if you're just going to run Windows on it, that's usually known as a "PC"

libertine• 9 years ago

Couldn't this just be aimed for GPU Docks (mainly for laptops)?

Or Apple doesn't support such devices?

Edit: Well it seems that's not straight forward... but maybe NVIDIA is playing ahead of the curve with TB3 on MBPro 2016 : http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/12/01/the-thunderbolt-3-...

Hydraulix9895• 9 years ago

NVIDIA has been "casually" helping out Hackintosh users with driver updates for their cards that aren't realistically used anywhere else for a while now (nobody has that pre-"trashcan" Mac Pro with the swappable PCI Express GPU slot anymore).

Nvidia's Hackintosh Support Is an Insurgency Against Apple's Computers

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