Google App Engine turns 2

http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2010/04/happy-birthday.html

by ordinaryman • 16 years ago

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axiom4• 16 years ago

Until they speed up the datastore by a factor of 10 the app engine just isn't a viable platform. They don't even use it internally for that very reason (this is coming from colleagues who work there.)

jeff185• 16 years ago

How do you reconcile that statement with the fact that tons of developers do actually use it? Myself included. ;)

moe• 16 years ago

What do the error rates on write operations look like these days?

This ticket has held me back from giving appengine a try so far: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=76...

axiom4• 16 years ago

We use it too. That's why I can make that statement.

A DB request takes over 100ms on the datastore. That's insane and unusable for about 90% of applications. Even their implementation of memcached is several orders of magnitude slower than actual memcached.

alecthomas• 16 years ago

AppEngine is used quite extensively internally.

e98cuenc2• 16 years ago

It depends a lot on each particular project. Panoramio and pubhubsubbub are two of the most well known Google projects built in AppEngine.

arachnid• 16 years ago

We're constantly working on improving datastore performance, but asking for a factor of 10 improvement is outside the bounds of reasonableness: that would bring latencies well under that of a disk seek, so unless you're prepared to pay to have all your data stored in ram, it's effectively impossible for reads.

ordinaryman3• 16 years ago

Apart from being the tipping point - nudging me to start out on my own with its liberal free quotas, I should also thank Google App Engine for not supporting Java during the initial release and thus exposing me to Python.

Coming from corporate Java and RDBMS world, the non-RDBMS datastore (BigTable), Python and having to scale while being more resource conscious, have all been pleasant experiences.

ez773• 16 years ago

Just out of curiosity, what tools (text editor, shell, IDE, etc.) do you use when working on GAE?

ordinaryman3• 16 years ago

Emacs & cmd.exe

khelloworld• 16 years ago

As you begin your 3rd year, here are a few things I wish for you:

1. May you be able to work with your brother, Google Apps, to allow SSL support for custom domains.

2. May you be able to lift your 1 MB cap per urlfetch request to at least 10 MB so that your users can write some cool apps using the YouTube API.

3. May you inherit some snazzy search skills this year from Google Search, your grand daddy, and allow your users to whip up custom search engines for their apps in the blink of an eye (or the press of a button, rather).

Happy Birthday GAE!

- All of your 250k users.

simonk• 16 years ago

Top two are in the roadmap http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html

mshafrir• 16 years ago

The first one is a non-starter for many startups.

markkoberlein• 16 years ago

I would agree that the lack of support of SSL on custom domains and the size limitations (my main issue is with the upload limits) have kept GAE from really taking off. I have used it for a small non-profit app and I host my personal consulting site on it. However, because of the limitations I'm building my startup on rackspace instead of GAE.

I really love GAE as a development platform, especially as a single developer, but I hope they will work through their roadmap faster.

ez773• 16 years ago

I have the feeling this is an old question, but I can't find a specific answer. Is it possible to host a Google App only with your custom domain while disabling the appspot.com URL? I could understand this being a restriction on free accounts, but does it also apply to paying customers?

Thanks

PS: If not possible, is there a way to redirect your appspot.com URL to your custom URL?

ordinaryman3• 16 years ago

Ideally, if you do not publicize the App ID / appspot domain, it is not likely to be known & requested.

Anyway, the simplest way to do this will be to redirect requests received on the appspot domain to your custom domain, from within your code.

ez773• 16 years ago

I found a relevant discussion: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1364733/block-requests-fr...

apower• 16 years ago

Yawn.

Google App Engine turns 2

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