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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=114061

by theremora • 18 years ago

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Boston Launch: www.genotrope.com could you please check out the site and critique and comment? As a cold start peer produced database, the data is only robust for the Boston Market currently. If you are from Austin..etc.. the experience will be less than fulfilling for now, so to get the idea, use a Boston company like Lotus or ITA software in your profile. Then you will be able to see what companies are matched to you. Feel free to add your companies and founder/investor connections. thanks

mcxx• 18 years ago

From a developer's point of view: HTML 4.0 and table layout stinks! Use CSS. Write in UTF8 and add a DTD. Use mod_rewrite to rewrite your URL (port number in a URL doesn't look profesional).

From a visitor's point of view: The colors suck. And why do I have to log into the app to read the FAQ? The "welcome page" doesn't have navigation, other pages have it. BTW your home page is different from the welcome page, fix that too.

bfioca4• 18 years ago

No user cares about HTML 4.0 and table layouts. I hate this complaint. Also, don't use mod_rewrite because it adds unnecessary overhead to your webserver.

agentbleu3• 18 years ago

no mod rewrite? ever heard of something silly called seo?

ref tables etc, Im with you - who cares

gojomo• 18 years ago

You're right about HTML4/tables... but the suggestion to use something (mod_rewrite or whatever) to get off a non-standard port (8081) is a good one. Non-standard ports look sketchy to many people -- and sometimes company networks even block access to them.

theremora16• 18 years ago

thanks, the faq issue was an oversite, the rest we can fix. what is the issue with colors, what site colors do you like

kungfooguru• 18 years ago

The images are fuzzy, and the large image is distracting.

johnrob• 18 years ago

First thing I noticed was the graph of companies. I figured the site was a database of corporate relationships (company A funded company B, which acquired company C, etc..). Then I saw the 'job hacks' tab, and the 'Opportunities at Emerging and Start-up Technology Companies' tab on the top. Ah, this is a job site.

The message needs to be clearer: This is a job site (which happens to have a nice company analyzer) or this is a Company database (which happens to have job listings). There is probably too much info on the front page.

I would probably lean toward the Company database that has jobs version over the other.

theremora16• 18 years ago

thanks, yea, a destination to stay informed about local startups, and if you want, pursue job opportunities.

hhm• 18 years ago

I agree with this one. Btw, I liked the site.

softwarejim• 18 years ago

can't get to the site

bosko• 18 years ago

The entire site is a confusing mess. That chart is fuzzy and scares me. I don't even want to look at it. Text is horribly contrasted throughout the site. Constantly opening links in a new window when I don't want that. Clicking on the "Limited Access" link to let me do a search loads a page that nearly crashes my browser. Java is slow to load and other portions had to wait.

Don't see why you had to use JAVA to show a graph that has no real value. Cool, we can move the arrows around the central point! But it has no value .. just make it a nice static, clear image

bmaier• 18 years ago

strangest name I've encountered in a while and thats saying something on today's internet.

edw519• 18 years ago

Too slow to load. I gave up. But from the looks of the other comments here, it's just as well.

Looks like you're getting good (and ruthless) feedback. I'd expect nothing less from this group.

Good luck to you. Let us know when 1.1 is ready.

pg• 18 years ago

The frontpage doesn't explain what the benefit is for the user, or what he should do to try it out. There's also at least 2x too much on the frontpage, though better graphic design would make it look less distracting.

dpapathanasiou2• 18 years ago

Is this supposed to be like LinkedIn for startups?

Or is it just a research site, like a Hoover's for startups?

theremora16• 18 years ago

you could say that, founders move from company to company and create similar work environments and hire similar quality people

dpapathanasiou2• 18 years ago

If it's supposed to be a startup jobs site, you should make that more clear, right at the beginning (maybe split the page into "For Startup Job Seekers" and "For Startup Founders Who Are Hiring", for example).

theremora16• 18 years ago

uncle, uncle,,thanks, may I have another. I was expecting brutal good feedback so keep it coming. Ok, we are down now. will get it back up and try again. thanks for the pressure

Magua2• 18 years ago

Very confusing graphics and layout. Also, strange name. If you have to explain what your name means, you've got a problem.

lanceusa2• 18 years ago

Google and Yahoo are not strange?

theremora16• 18 years ago

loopt, xobni, scribd, wufoo, weebly, zenter I dont know, names are hard. Is it memorable? hangoutandlearnaboutyourlocalstartupmarket.com was taken :)

theremora16• 18 years ago

back up, well see how long it lasts

alexsolo• 18 years ago

Seems to be down again...

theremora16• 18 years ago

just checked , is working now, sorry for the problems. finding problems along with getting the feedback

mynameishere• 18 years ago

I guess I don't see the point. People are complaining about fuzzy images or whatever. I thought the interface was okay, but the question of where and how value is being added is not at all clear.

Also, go through your codebase, and anytime you see something like this:

"Please login to access 'Find Companies / Jobs"

...do a total re-write. I'm not logging it to an unfamiliar website, and neither are 95 percent of people.

theremora16• 18 years ago

point well taken, since users can enter and edit the database of companies, how would you approach trying to keep some semblance of security for the database without knowing who is modifying it?

maxwell2• 18 years ago

Anyone can see it, log in to write to it.

hollywoodcole• 18 years ago

- Need a clear sentence on what you do or what the site is about.

- Images have been stretched

juanpablo2• 18 years ago

Wow. An actual Java applet. It's like 1998 all over again. Too much for a simple graph. You should consider replace it with flash... or even pure Dom/Javascript, like these guys: http://www.genoom.com

theremora16• 18 years ago

thanks yeah, there is a flash version about ready to drop. it is overkill for the simple graph, but when we map all web 2 startups in boson. or compare two VC to see if they have invested together in the past, being able to zoom and pan will be more useful.

wallflower• 18 years ago

Did you roll-your-own graph display UI library or use someone elses?

sammyo• 18 years ago

YC dotted?

theremora16• 18 years ago

i dont know what that means? y (space) combinator in the database

sspencer• 18 years ago

sammyo is asking if the site has been brought down due to heavy traffic. Although if YC is nailing your site, you have serious problems.

See "slashdotted" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdotted

I thought everyone knew that term by now...

theremora16• 18 years ago

sorry, brain not connecting the dots,

juanpablo2• 18 years ago

"Add your company and the connections to investors and past companies of the founders and executives."

???? So this is for company owners? Why they should reveal their connections?

"Adding companies and links add credit points."

Credits points?

theremora16• 18 years ago

it is public knowledge what companies the founders and executives came from. Are you thinking connections like people they know ie friends . look at the graph for y combinator or ITA software and you will see what the connections refer to. Yes companies are the clients.

would you prefer karma rather than credits?

lanceusa2• 18 years ago

A startup built on the idea of tracking startups...what will they think of next.

Looked good though.

streo2• 18 years ago

What is the etiquette regarding asking the YCombinator community to review a site? I just recently joined and I absolutely love the interaction with other community members with submissions like this....

...also I have something I'm working on (surprise surprise) and I would like to submit something of this nature for all to see, once things are up. I wanted to know if asking the community to review my site is something that would get me the feedback I'm looking for (I REALLY want to know why my project sucks or won't work) or if it's something that is not encouraged.

theremora16• 18 years ago

no etiquette, just post it and they will come. I dont think you will have to worry about what people REALLY think.

streo2• 18 years ago

The fact that the rounded rectangle boxes are not evenly spaced shows lack of attention to detail. (yes I'm being a jerk here, but I've found that negative feedback from others has helped me make my project better)

The graphics are grainy. They should be stark and clean. There is too much use of two colors. It feels too monochromatic.

You need a better descriptions to communicate what benefit you have for people to join. Why should I join? There needs to be a more obvious "in your face" explanation highlighting something. The message should be along the lines of "If I join, then _______ is a possibility for me" - what I mean here is that this is the feeling that needs to be evoked within your visitors perception when they read one of the rounded boxes.

The graph could be a 3D graph, it will look unique and at the same time convey a hidden message to explore the site. It's a subtle message that if somebody sees an object of depth then they have an inclination to explore the site

On the about page, you need to have a margin on the sides. Feel free to make the font size bigger.

I click on the "about" section and have no clear way to get back to the main page - BIG MISTAKE! I see that there is an orange "return" button, but this is not intuitive. Clicking on the logo to take us back to the main page would be more intuitive for users and it will let people believe that this is easily navigable.

sharksandwich• 18 years ago

Obviously not the most important point to address, but one of the first things I noticed was that there's a grammatical mistake (it's for its) in your introduction. It's a minor error, but it also undermines the professional image you're trying to project

tjweir• 18 years ago

Add some graceful javascript degradation. I use NoScript and your site is essentially useless.

http://www.stevetucker.co.uk/javascript-complete-degradation...

tlrobinson• 18 years ago

The image quality is awful and gives the site a cheap feel. I'd use PNG.

neelesh• 18 years ago

The 404 not found page is tomcat's default page. A custom page would be better. The favicon is again tomcat's default. As someone mentioned earlier, the image quality needs improvement.

cmer• 18 years ago

My advice: hire a graphic designer. the ui is way too cluttered and just plain unpleasant.

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