DigitalOcean Teams Up with Bitnami, Install Over 100 Web Apps with a Few Clicks

http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/11/digitalocean-teams-up-with-bitnami-now-lets-you-install-over-100-web-apps-with-a-few-clicks/

by mitchwainer • 11 years ago

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res0nat0r• 11 years ago

This has been available on AWS also: https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results/ref=srh_na...

balls187• 11 years ago

Don't forget VMware: https://solutionexchange.vmware.com/store/category_groups/19

prydonius5• 11 years ago

You can find our Launchpad for VMware vCloud Air here at https://vmware.bitnami.com/. Check out https://bitnami.com/cloud to find out about some of the other cloud platforms we've partnered with.

crb• 11 years ago

and Google Cloud Platform: https://google.bitnami.com/

Uffizi• 11 years ago

A few months ago I noticed there was not a novice user step-by-step guide for installing WordPress on AWS, so I threw together https://howtoinstallonaws.com. Bitnami really makes it quite painless.

jeffbarr• 11 years ago

That's cool but your https comes back as untrusted.

manishsharan2• 11 years ago

I like Bitnami and I am a big fan. However, when deploying Jboss, Glassfish and Tomcat application servers from Bitnami onto AWS, I have found that you need to configure the application server specs based on the specs of your host EC2 -- I ended up creating custom images for each type of EC2 in my inventory for these application servers.

irishcoffee• 11 years ago

Slightly OT but I'm curious: do you like jboss and glassfish? I've used both pretty extensively, and am not a big fan of either one. Could have been user error though, not application error.

manishsharan2• 11 years ago

Like may be too strong a word to use. But if you are doing EJB and MDBs, then they both are the only options , unless you go the weblogic/websphere route. I would not touch either with a 20 foot pole for a non-ejb application with no session replication requirements.

prydonius5• 11 years ago

Hi Manish,

Our images do change some configuration options based on the type of instance that we detect on boot. It would be great if you could get in touch with us at hello@bitnami.com and let us know the details of what you had to configure manually, so that we can improve this.

melling• 11 years ago

How's Wordpress on Digital Ocean? Will the $10 plan work well as a starter site?

chrisan• 11 years ago

a $5 will work well starting out: http://www.narga.net/recommended-nginx-configuration-high-tr...

(I think they use affiliate links in that post, just FYI)

paradite• 11 years ago

I used to run WP on $5 plan but the memory soon runs out (with the recommended swap config). The next tier seems to be working fine for the past few months.

ridruejo4• 11 years ago

You definitely need to be careful how to configure things, but enabling caching, event MPM + php-fpm, mod_pagespeed, etc. like we do in our Bitnami images helps a lot. The good thing is that it is relatively painless to resize if you need to.

arunpn123• 11 years ago

I am running Wordpress on a $5 plan for my personal website. Also paying $1 extra per month for backups. While requesting for an OS image to install, you can choose to install Wordpress on it from their menu. It is a no-frills simple setup if you want to go the self-hosting route.

ohashi3• 11 years ago

Out of the box? Performance isn't great. However, it's not hard to get some stupid fast cached performance. I wrote about it here: http://reviewsignal.com/blog/2014/06/25/40-million-hits-a-da...

full configs are available on github (and more updated).

There are also a lot of other companies/packages to help you setup faster stacks that are more maintained than what I did. easyEngine or ServerPilot being two examples.

freehunter• 11 years ago

How many hits are you getting per day that isn't great performance? I'm running two WP blogs each on their own $5/mo plan and it's been working great with one notable exception: I would constantly run out of memory on my highest-trafficked site (20 uniques per day) with WP Super Cache turned on. When I uninstalled it, the speed went way up and the out of memory errors disappeared.

kuschku2• 11 years ago

The 2$ OVH plan works better than the 10$ DO plan, if you can live without the ecosystem and with a quite meh webinterface.

nly2• 11 years ago

RunAbove 'Sandbox' instances overcommit RAM and provide no SLA. Sure, you can't beat the price, but if I wasn't interested in a SLA then I'd rather pay $10 and get a Kimsufi.

joeguilmette2• 11 years ago

I think it's great. Check out EasyEngine by the rtCamp guys.

fibonachos• 11 years ago

I host 4 Wordpress sites on the $5 plan without a problem. Admittedly they are pretty low traffic, but you did specify starter site. If any of the sites ever start seeing significant traffic I'll probably bump up to a 2 cpu plan and move the database to a separate instance.

None of them are mission critical or have any impact on my income, so I used my server setup as a chance to teach myself how to setup nginx.

The sites were using the bitnami image on the free AWS tier before that. No issues there either.

chm• 11 years ago

I don't see the Bitnami apps when I try to create a droplet. Where do I find them?

Edit: It seems I need to register on Bitnami's website.

prydonius5• 11 years ago

You can head to https://digitalocean.bitnami.com/ to launch a Bitnami app in your DigitalOcean account.

steeples3• 11 years ago

Wordpress is awful on DO and many things can and do break. Trust me, I've been developing with Wordpress for over a decade, and WP on a VPS is a whole different kettle of fish. Whether it's hardening the VPS to avoid a DDOS, or auto-patching Ubuntu when OpenSSL gets another vulnerability. It's quite mightmarish. DO is good for things like Gitlab and VPNs and things like that, but good luck trying to get something bulletproof and high availability. It's a devops nightmare. It can be achieved, but it takes some time...

TheHippo• 11 years ago

Wordpress is awful on a self-managed VPS, this has nothing to do with DO.

moron4hire• 11 years ago

This is why I'm ditching it and going back to static HTML for my corporate site. As a small consulting shop, we just don't have the time or resources to worry about "WTF is wrong now?"

bpicolo• 11 years ago

You mean wordpress is totally fine on a self-managed VPS assuming you know how to manage it.

Same as literally every other application?

nly2• 11 years ago

Indeed. First thing that blew my mind is that it checks to see if its files are owned by the uid of the php process. Why? Why can't we just +w on uploads, themes, plugins etc using group permissions?

blfr• 11 years ago

Why is Wordpress on a VPS a nightmare? You install nginx, php-fpm, mysql, enable unattended upgrades in Ubuntu, create a new user for Wordpress, run it, enable automatic updates, done.

It's a blog. It doesn't need to be bulletproof or run on a cluster.

(Of course, the hip choice is Ghost.)

buckbova• 11 years ago

I tried to install wordpress from apt-get and it wasn't trivial. File permissions were out of whack, plugins and upgrades weren't working.

I eventually scrapped it and installed from source. Took a little longer to configure but worked out.

I also added some extra firewall and server monitoring tools.

steeples3• 11 years ago

I say this because so many peeps think using these pre-installed WP bundles is all kittens and unicorns; it is not. I am not singling out DO specifically, but any VPS provider that has pre-installed soft that does not respond to threat landscapes and it not hardened correctly. Users install without a care in the world for having their VPS naked and like a sitting duck. (Yes I monitor inbound traffic on VPSes and there are people who are interested in flooding if you don't practice throttling and load balancing, or PTR records which resolve the raw IP to other domains).

lucasmullens• 11 years ago

WordPress is not just a blog. It's used for so much more than that: http://wordpress.tv/2013/11/07/aaron-holbrook-wordpress-is-a...

brobinson• 11 years ago

Don't forget memcached and W3 Total Cache. :-)

xux• 11 years ago

I'm curious why you think it's awful? I used the one-click Wordpress install on DO and put up a custom-coded theme. The site gets around .5m visits a month and I've never run into any problems.

aikah2• 11 years ago

WP was not designed for modern deployment for a number or reasons. Wordpress is definitely not a 12 factor app. And there is nothing that can be really fixed by plugins. to fix this, one has to break WP core apis. WP is "a deploy once with ftp/sftp" cms.

icpmacdo• 11 years ago

How big is the droplet?

philtar• 11 years ago

I don't what this says about people who frequent HN. Bitnami has dozens of different applications, and the discussion is about WP.

bliti2• 11 years ago

You have to run your own install script. It is more involved than deploying other things. I usually run a script to prepare the server first (for a generic secure setup, including LAMP) and then run the WP installing script (which is mostly Python working through sftp). It has taken a bit of time to figure this one out, because the generic secure setup requires constant upkeep. Its not something that you set and forget.

x5n13• 11 years ago

apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade works to upgrade the server. i have moved all my installs into docker containers. so you upgrade the image and then roll that out site by site. Wrote about it here: http://www.dockerwordpress.com/ and how I handle my upgrades http://www.dockerwordpress.com/docker/upgrading-wordpress-do...

joeguilmette2• 11 years ago

I think WordPress is great on DigitalOcean. With EasyEngine you can be up and running - cached - and seconds with a handful of CLI commands. I've had great luck with running WP on DO.

rahul286• 11 years ago

Thanks Joe for posting about EasyEngine.

@All if anyone have any questions about EasyEngine, I will be happy to answer. I am from EasyEngine team. :-)

sandGorgon• 11 years ago

I actually run a few wordpress blogs on Cloudways - which sets up a managed host on top of DO or AWS. It's pretty good - I think there is value for managed "applications" on top of VPS.

Think of it as Cloudformation for the rest of the world !

xxdesmus• 11 years ago

Uh. I think you need a managed service instead of a VPS then.

stoic• 11 years ago

hey, looks a bit like quickinstall at hostgator

jsamuel• 11 years ago

Though ServerPilot focuses more on ongoing server management (e.g. updates, control panel, monitoring, support) for DigitalOcean servers rather than one-click installers, there is now a one-click WordPress installer.

https://serverpilot.io/blog/2015/07/22/one-click-wordpress-a...

sytse• 11 years ago

The Bitnami images for GitLab are impossible to upgrade automatically and are a worse experience than our Omnibus packages. I hope Bitnami addresses this soon.

jtwebman• 11 years ago

I will stick to building the machines myself. These just seem dangerous. If I am going to use these I should just host on HostGator.

BufordTJustice• 11 years ago

I agree, I think if you're going to deploy an application that's facing the internet, it makes sense to take the time to roll the deployment scripts (Salt, Ansible, etc.) and understand at some level what is getting installed, as well as how it's configured and how what needs to be setup for security, rather than just trusting the image.

tobbyb• 11 years ago

Flockport provides something similar but with containers https://www.flockport.com/store We have a fledgling app store with over 30 apps that can be deployed on any Linux server in minutes. It's completely free.

The advantage with using containers as opposed to VMs is containers are portable so you are not stuck to any server or cloud provider. Your apps are portable, and cloning, snapshots and backups become simpler.

The advantage of using LXC is the entire stack can be in one container and the environment is more like an OS that users are familiar with. Users can use the flockport utility to pull the app and then directly get to the App dashboard, without all the installation and configuration hassles of a typical stack. And Flockport apps should work with nspawn and other container managers.

frik• 11 years ago

Aren't those the guys who took over XAMPP? (portable dev LAMP for various OS incl Windows)

ridruejo4• 11 years ago

Correct, we are the current maintainers for XAMPP. We also have our own LAMP/WAMP/MAMP stacks

justinator2• 11 years ago

Please add Dada Mail [0] to your DO offerings. It's already available on the Mojo Marketplace, Softaculous, Installtron, etc,

It comes bundled with a CLI installer, which would be trivial to utilize when automating the install process.

[0] http://dadamailproject.com

prydonius5• 11 years ago

Bitnami runs a monthly contest[0] where you can vote for your favourite application to be packaged. I couldn't find an entry for Dada Mail, but you can go ahead and submit it for review[1] and we can add it to the contest.

[0] https://bitnami.com/contest

[1] https://bitnami.com/contest/new_application

justinator2• 11 years ago

I'm not really interested in a somewhat gamification for the inclusion of the app into the lineup.

The winners are first the users, who have an easier way to install the app (it's already given away for free) and you, which are given another solid app to offer.

I don't really get anything by entering the app in a contest. I'm not really interested in contesting the app at all. But, to give your users more choice on what to use? Again a total win for you.

johnmertic• 11 years ago

Ping me at John at Bitnami dot com to chat about this. Happy to see what we can do to help y'all out ;-)

zimbatm• 11 years ago

https://www.vultr.com/ is like DO except it allows arbitrary ISO and iPXE. No need to wait on DigitalOcean for them to provide your OS. They also have IPv6, private IPs and more locations. And it's a bit cheaper.

jedisct1• 11 years ago

https://sandstorm.io/ remains the best option for packaging webapps IMHO.

erlend_sh• 11 years ago

DigitalOcean users get two free months of Bitnami access.

Uh, I don't really understand what "Bitnami access" constitutes. Once I've done the install, I don't really need Bitnami for anything more, right? right? Does that mean everyone who wants to do a Bitnami-powered install should hurry up and do it now, before they have to pay to get access to the Bitnami installer?

ridruejo4• 11 years ago

The reporter got it wrong, it is the other way around. The Bitnami launchpad is completely free

DigitalOcean Teams Up with Bitnami, Install Over 100 Web Apps with a Few Clicks

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