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I think the tool itself might be at fault.

I don't think so. I don't think it's about being "unworthy to work with" (your quote not mine).

I think the uncomfortable truth is that AI is making it harder for all of us to prove that we're productive.

GPT-5.6 13 days ago

I think you're helping GPs point: there is a lot of efficiency gains to be made to match the processing power of the brain, given it's size and power draw.

Would you be so sure of this opinion if the requirement was to write "a simple CRUD app", but it had to integrate with a poorly documented legacy system and was for a big client with an SLA that could sink the business?

Yes, because I think the underlying patterns are the same. Get data, move it around, serialize/deserialize it, store, query, present. It's very unlikely I'm going to run into some new pattern that's never been seen in code before. This is exactly where I think devs are giving themselves too much credit.

I'm not saying AI can do it without my help either, I'm just saying is that it can help me do it better and faster than I could have done without it.

Sure, if you're one of the few that is building something truly novel, I agree AI will not be as useful to you.

That's why I added the disclaimer above: I'm not working on anything groundbreaking (like most people).

And I disagree with your premise overall, because I think the overwhelming majority of software development is much more like driving on a paved highway than it is like hiking through unmarked forest. Which is exactly why AI works so well: it's trained on thousands of examples of very similar solutions to very similar problems.

All of the hard work has already been done by people before us. We have the luxury of sitting down in front of incredible hardware, operating systems, fully designed languages, optimizing compilers, IDEs to fill in the blanks for us, and now AI to write up entire programs for us - none of which we had anything to do with the creation of. All we need to do is hook things together and slap on a layer of paint.

Yes, but "good ideas" compared to what? If you were aware of the better alternatives, you probably wouldn't be discussing those details with an LLM

Even when I already have a good idea of how I plan to do something, I may still ask AI and then find it gave me better idea for some particular thing.

I liken it to using GPS even when you know the route like the back of your hand. It can still steer you around an accident.

To do this effectively I have to drop the idea that I always know better than it does.

But it doesn't work for reasoning and abstraction, so it fails to synthesise and propose novel views

I disagree. Have a conversation with it about your problem and work through design decisions with it. When I do that, I find it gives me a lot of good ideas.

Disclaimer: I'm not working on anything groundbreaking (like most people)

You're right. I forgot that it's impossible for parents and children to misunderstand eachother.

I should have realized it, too, because when my parents tell me something, I know what they really mean, and it's not usually what they actually said to me.

So of course your parents want their house price to go up so they can pay higher taxes while surrounded by more traffic and noise. Seems so obvious now that you say it.

More noise, more traffic, more people. Things that would impact the value of their nearly debt-free home.

Maybe they just don't want the noise and traffic, and they don't really care about the impact on their house value.

Seems like you're jumping to a conclusion.

If that were the case we wouldn't have spent time talking about how it is broken

You've done exactly the opposite. All you've done is defend the system and cast blame at the "bosses" for not doing their job.

The power is in your hands.

There you go again.

Please update this thread when you put your money where your mouth is and make a real difference. Then all those reading this can be inspired by your actions rather than your empty words.

Which is literally lobbying, which you refuse to participate in, so that leaves accepting that all your great thoughts will be forever stuck in your head

It's literally not possible to fix a corrupt system by asking a participant in it to change the system that benefits them.

Unfortunately, magic doesn't exist.

You are under the illusion that we operate under a functional democracy that responds to the will of the people. It's you that believes in magic, not me.

Fox to buy Roku 1 month ago

Used to have Roku. Switched to Google TV / Chromecast. So much better. Now when I see Roku it's like going back in time, like seeing an iPod.

there's another word we use to describe participating in democracy: Lobbying

And there's another word we can use to describe Lobbying: Bribery.

Lobbying is a (corrupt) industry and I'm not a participant in it, so unfortunately I'm still down to "call your representative".

The system really doesn't work as you say. Representatives don't respond to what their constituents want. They respond to money and and power. That's not democracy.

If all this still is beyond your grasp, community colleges typically have management courses you can enrol in

You're taking this analogy too far. Managing an employee is not like electing a representative. We're not describing a boss-employee relationship here.

This motivational talk of "you have a superpower" and "you're the boss" all boiled down to one piece of concrete advice you gave: "call your representative". You've not given me anything else I can do with my high level management skills.

I admire your optimism, but I think we have enough evidence at this point to know that this is just not going to do it.

the employers are not fulfilling their duty as the employer

Ok I'm an employer, and voting is my superpower. So I guess I just need to vote for the ones that aren't corrupt and that'll fix it? Too easy. Help me out though because I don't want to screw this up...who exactly do I need to vote for to fix our broken systems?

They think they can spend all day, every day, on the golf corse, metaphorically speaking, and everything will function hunky dory.

Wait a minute...voting isn't enough? I also need to dedicate my life to this? Ok what should I do? Run for office? Volunteer at a campaign? Whose campaign? Go to DC and protest? Lie down on the freeway? Post my thoughts on r/politics? Wait does this HN post count? Am I fixing our corrupt country right now? This is easy!

It is not fundamentally broken

It's corrupted by money, bribery, gerrymandering, an electoral system that is anti-democratic, and a two party system that has as a joint monolopy on power via division.

Corrupt means broken.