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Can they optimize Skype so that it doesn't require 80MB-130MB just to run in the background? How can it require this much memory to run an instant messenger? Couldn't they delay load some of the features if they aren't yet being used (such as video codecs and audio codecs and other such features?)

The issue is that there is a dual system of rights in place depending on whether you are Jewish or whether you are a Palestinian Arab and that is deeply wrong. I am not in favor of barring Jews from living in the West Bank (which seems to be the topic of your reply) but rather against different rights for different ethnic groups (which is what people mean when they bring up the spectre of Apartheid.)

> If you don't like the security measures then don't go there.

But what happens if you are Palestinian like the people in these stories and as a politically aware Palestinian you become active in pro-Palestinian activism because you care about the rights and freedoms of your people? Those are the people that Israeli is targeting if you read these articles.

I didn't say there is a simple solution but rather that Israeli permanent occupation has become akin to Apartheid South Africa for the non-citizen Arabs and the citizen Jews living in the West Bank. The fact that you didn't mention this as a wart is pretty big blind spot given that the number of disenfranchised non-Jews living in the West Bank is in the millions and this has been going on for over 40 years.

AJ007 wrote:

> This just sounds like an attempt to keep individuals of certain backgrounds out of a country.

Absolutely correct. The security officials believed that the individuals where pro-Palestinian activists. Here is a quote and article that details this:

"The agent, suspecting Tamari was involved in pro-Palestinian activism, wanted to inspect her private email account for incriminating evidence. The 42-year-old American of Palestinian descent refused and was swiftly expelled from the country."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pro-palestinian-activist-says-s...

Israel does prevent those with sympathy to the Palestinians from entering Israel.

I posted this quote/article in response to another comment but it is pertinent here:

"The agent, suspecting Tamari was involved in pro-Palestinian activism, wanted to inspect her private email account for incriminating evidence. The 42-year-old American of Palestinian descent refused and was swiftly expelled from the country."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pro-palestinian-activist-says-s...

nyellin wrote:

> We also have our warts...

But you didn't mention the elephant in the room in your comment, which is pretty strange:

Israel also has run a 40+ year occupation that denies non-Jewish residents of rights and freedoms while subsidizing Jewish settlements in and around the disenfranchised non-Jewish population. Many many people, including former Israeli PMs and many respected academics, consider Israel's occupation and its settlement practices to be a form of apartheid or leading to it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analog...

The NGO Monitor aims to undermine non-violent actions against the Israeli occupation in order to maintain it. It tries to cut funding to peaceful NGOs because they don't align with Zionist values.

NGO Monitor is pro-occupation and pro-Israeli settlers.

So your response seems to be out of place. I criticize A, you say "but B" which is unrelated to A as a counter argument.

Avoid Apress 15 years ago

You were working without a contract.

I would suggest that is the whole reason this experienced sucked, not because of Apress.

I would argue the issue is more about the priorities of the American government and also its economic decline. America has fundamental issues that means it can not longer fund such a mission, but it is likely that other governments and economies that are healthier and with different priorities could do manned missions to the moon.

It is important to differentiate between human capacity and the capacity and priorities of the American government. They are not the same thing, even if when one lives in the US, it can seem like it.

One could argue (similarly incorrectly) that human capacity in Britain peaked in the late 1800s, but again that was because that was the peak of the Britian empire.

You seem to state that Israel not annexing the West Bank is a desirable thing from the perspective of Palestinian Arabs.

Actually real annexation is desirable. Annexing the West Bank and incorporating its Arab residents into Israel proper (the Jewish settler residents of the West Bank are already considered Israeli) would be a just solution to the issue.

Then everyone would be equal under the law and the Palestinians would have a say over the future. Many of them would like to return to their homes that they left 1948:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

I think that either there is a two-state solution or a one-state solution (which can be annexation if you like) is okay. But the dual system of rights where Jewish settlers are privileged and non-Jewish Palestinian Arabs are under military rule is not something a modern Western state should be justifying to itself or others, and it something that people like yourself shouldn't have to wrap themselves in knots trying to "explain".

No, I am saying that Israel runs a two tiered system of rights in the West Bank, one for Jewish Israeli settlers and one for the non-Jewish Palestinian Arabs. I believe it is wrong. Do you feel it is justified?

Israel is only a democracy for those included as citizens. There are millions of Arabs in the West Bank who are explicitly excluded as citizens while the Jewish Israeli settlers all around them are considered Israeli citizens.

Israel is a democracy for those that it wants in its democracy and it is military rule for those that wants excluded.

Both South Africa and Israel were created by European refugees fleeing persecution. Both countries became very militaristic and has Western allies who overlooked the way they treated their natives. Both countries where populated by a people who felt that their culture was under attack and vulnerable.

Now if only all the Arab residents in Israel had rights and freedoms then everything would be okay. Israel is much better for the Arabs who are citizens that it is for the Arabs in the West Bank who don't.

Israel runs a two tiered right system. In the West Bank Israeli settlers live under Israeli laws while the non-Jewish Palestinians live under military rule where their land is constantly being confiscated for Jewish settlers.

That is wrong, plain and simple.

It doesn't matter what you said is wrong with Arabs, running a two tiered system of rights is very wrong.