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The author clearly explains his process in detail, explaining the pitfalls. Not sure why you’d make a dig like this. There are some useful insights in the article

That’s simply not true, governments help billions of people in many ways, especially people with disabilities, children (ie labor protections), women, etc. You are completely disingenuous to say otherwise. Billionaires are harming many people through eroding the institutions that protect the average people (rulings like citizens united, trumps election, etc). You don’t seem like a person with a real perspective to me.

You are basically an anarchist then. There are examples of good governance in the world, where the rule of law hasn’t been eroded by the people you are set on protecting. The problem with billionaires is more about the problem of power in the hands of a few greedy people who change the balance of power in their favor.

Something needs to be done about the historic inequality in this country. It will undue all the “innovation” (ie selling ads and addicting people to the internet) that these tech billionaires have contributed.

So pointing out that the dude works for a morally corrupt billionaire gets you downvotes… we’ve got a draw the line somewhere folks. Working for the wealthiest person in the world who lacks an moral framework is morally wrong. You should be reminded of this op and hope you reflect on your complicity.

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I do think Manus had a better approach than some of the competitors of the space, allowing for far more agentic flows (ie manus would run its own code, debug, write and run tests, etc). Lovable or v0 by contrast are quite primitive. Very unfortunate that they are a part of meta now, where mark will likely micromanage and destroy the core value of the product.

If this is the new way code is written then they are arguably learning how to code. Jury is still out though, but I think you are being a bit dismissive.

It reminds me of llm output at scale. Llms tend to produce a lot of similar but slightly different ideas in a codebase, when not properly guided.

New software may end up being less about legacy foundations and more about bespoke software, fast iteration, throw away single purpose code, etc.

AI is likely to change fundamental paradigms around software design by significantly decreasing the cost of a line of code/feature/bugfix/and or starting from scratch and enabling more stakeholders to help produce software.

Are you arguing that the difficulty of producing a fully functioning poc is no different today than 2-3 years ago?!

Personally, I’ve been writing software for 10 years professionally. It is much easier, especially for someone with little coding experience, to create a quite complex and fully featured web app.

It makes sense that ai models are leveraging frameworks like next js/react/supabase, they are trained/tuned on a very clear stack that is more compatible with how models function. Of course those tools have high value regardless of ai. But ai has rapidly lowered the barrier to entry, and allows be to go much much farther, much faster.

I was asking you a specific question and am curious of your answer. The impact of ai “blinding” people isn’t an “economic indicator” and hardly something that has been proven. Of course there are major issues with how people use ai just like any technology.

The aggregate impact isn’t known yet and the tech is still in its infancy.

Can you specify? I am personally using ai coding tools to replace subscription tools. While it’s valuable to me, in aggregate it would be a potential decline in economic activity for traditional services (this would only play out years from now in aggregate). We need to keep in mind that good ai coding tools like Claude code or to some extent,lovable, have barely come into existence.

One alternative explanation to the lack of shovelware, people are deploying software at an individual level. Perhaps millions of new people are using vibe code tools to build tools that are personalized and folks aren’t interested in trying to sell software (the hardest part of many generic saas tool is marketing/etc)

Perhaps looking at iOS, steam, and android release is simply not a great measure of where software is headed. Disappointing that the article didn’t think go a little more outside the box.

Ah true, that also can happen — in aggregate I think models will tend to expand codebases versus contract. Though, this is anecdotal and probably is something ai labs and coding agent companies are looking at now.