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They removed the screen images and changed the copy so it says

>The ASUS VivoTab Smart is lighter than the iPad, has more ports, works with more printers, lets you see two apps at once, and runs Microsoft Office and other desktop programs.

Glad this 346 upvotes and 216 comments compared to the Xbox threads that were flagged off the frontpage. Great discussion Hacker News!

> Yahoo has a ton of services, a ton of engineers and apps that could do better if they were made better.

Does buying Tumblr take away focus from their other services? I don't think Yahoo engineers working on those projects will be transfered to Tumblr.

> Yahoo still feels like it is 1999. Why not work on yahoo mail and make it relevant ?

Yahoo mail is plenty relevant. It's the 3rd largest email provider with 281 million users. And they updated it last December.

> what about their ugly homepage ?

They updated it. Also ugly != functional.

> I mean there is a ton of things to do, instead of buying things like Tumblr.

Once again, you are assuming the two are exclusive.

> Marissa is cute and intelligent , but what's her strategy for Yahoo?

What does her attractiveness have to do with anything?

Introducing Roku 3 13 years ago

>The real ultimate feature that's missing here though - the one that no one else has and would make go out and buy 3-4 of these things is the ability to sync audio and video playback across multiple devices throughout my house.

That seems like an incredibly niche feature.

You had me nodding until

>4. Also, yes, touchscreens are on laptops are stupid. This is a stupid idea.

Sure, touchscreens aren't going to be your main form of input in a laptop, but I wouldn't say they are stupid. Once you start playing with a touchscreen laptop, you'll begin to use the touchscreen occasionally, and in these moments it's really nice.

For example, when I'm browsing the web in my bed, it's awkward to use the touchpad to scroll, so I'll just reach out and scroll like I would on a tablet.

My iOS 7 Wishlist 14 years ago

>This is definitely not normal.

I don't know if it was because I was running out of disk space, but taking photos and texting became absolutely terrible on my iPhone 4. iOS 6 made it even slower.

I wouldn't recommend that approach for every startup, but if you are a small team, it's a huge plus if your engineers have great product sense (and and some design sense too).

It all depends on on this:

>The engineers who build our products enjoy, and are good at, figuring out what the product should do—not just how the implementation should work.

Number of steps is not necessarily and indication of the speed and ease of the action. Steps != a good metric to judge a UI by. Would you really say that a double click is equivalent in cost two a single click then finding the app icon and clicking on it?

To continue using the iPhone as an example, I realized that after two years, my Dad never realized that double clicking brings up the app switcher. I agree that it is better if you don't need a walkthrough, but I wouldn't say that you "blew it" if your app needs one. If a 30 second tutorial let's the user do very powerful and intuitive things, things that may save the user time over the long run, than maybe it is okay.

The Flat Sink 14 years ago

My point is that these types of posts are always upvoted on HN because they latch onto the latest general sentiments of the community. They are intellectually lazy posts that are not backed by anything besides some analogy the author has drawn to prove a point. As someone with a vested interest in design and UX, it pains me to see people upvote this.

The Flat Sink 14 years ago

> It is always intellectually lazy, in the same way that blindly accepting provided claims is intellectually lazy: it allows the reader to avoid thinking about the claims in question.

I did think about the statement, and I thought it was untrue. Then I asked for evidence to support the claim. Is that intellectually lazy, or is the original post intellectually lazy?

Regardless, 5-10 minutes after I posted "citation needed," I backed it up with examples, and followed up on subthreads with more points.

The Flat Sink 14 years ago

I would like for you to provide evidence for your statements, more than just a single screenshot.

>Put everything on the same plane, and you make it harder to focus on a specific section of the page.

How does a person draw a conclusion then without any evidence? Seems like confirmation bias to me.

>Get rid of all texture, and you might end up with cold, sterile designs that scare users away.

What's the point of making such statements that do not seem to be drawn from actual real world experience or data? Great, you have an opinion backed by what exactly? A personal emotional response to such designs? Do you actually avoid such designs? What is the value in making statements that have no backing data?

Did or does anyone say that Google's design might alienate users? It has always been one of the most sterile designs of any search engine or portal.

When people on the news make such statements, we laugh at them because we know they are just making these comments to get hits or views. They are trying to create controversy or lead people to agreeing with them when there is no evidence to back it up. It is analogous to fear mongering.

My biggest beef is people upvoting these types of posts. These posts are basically just piggybacking on general sentiments on Hacker News. Sure, at first glance, people tend to agree with them (see the +200 upvote count), and writing them may get the author some minor publicity, but when you attack them critically, you see they are not founded on any strong evidence. They are intellectually lazy posts.

And it isn't just you, it's all of the tech community that does it, and I am tired of it.

The Flat Sink 14 years ago

And I would say that the use of whitespace and typography is enough to differentiate it.