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where do i go to get the patch?
i looked here and i don't know where to pick up the patch also ran update manager in my ubuntu distro but no dice :(
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1723909 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/wpa.htm...
Debian repos and inherently Ubuntu's repos also have wpa_supplicant 2.4, we will see if they update to 2.6 or release a patch. Probably patch before 2.6.
It would be nice if there was a rule which package repos and distros would adhere to. The rule would adapt, such as all the packages that have had a security issues, will always be required to be updated to the latest versions in the next release or sooner. As vulnerabilities are discovered, the list of packages would grow and hopefully would prevent some future attacks. Obviously it's not full proof but every little bit counts.
So if i use my wired in node as an ssh tunnel out to the "internets" to tunnel all traffic from my wifi connected nodes then this mitigates the issue till updates come through?
"This is achieved by manipulating and replaying cryptographic handshake messages." so that means that the mac address has been spoofed to make the AP think that he is always talking to the same mac address.
If I'm plugged into the router directly then i should be good because it eliminates the wifi handshake. So even though other devices on the wifi network could be affected, the node that is plugged in is safe against this?
The price is growing i agree. Volatility relating to security and assurance. Not being able to trust exchanges, having to trust the developers because majority of the people will not read the code for many reasons and lack of regulation. The fact that there is nothing to stop a bunch of people getting together and attempt to control the network. Which probably already has happened. These factors add up to volatility.
Oh now the government is stealing from you. I think it's time to open the faraday cage and come out. Everything is everyones business, now i am the oppressor because i ask questions and don't drink your bitcoin kool aid. right... We need more people like you liberating us from the phantom forces of evil, i award you the golden cross of the bitcoin nation, mission accomplished. I didn't respond to the healthcare point because it's a bullshit attempt at an anchor which has no basis.
For the record, i have no axe to grind, i could care less because i am not involved in trading bitcoin. Just want to understand it better and clear the smoke a bit.
The 1% also has access to bitcoin. I would love to see the yearly incomes of people who invest in bitcoin and than we shall see about this "bitcoin is for everyone" rhetoric. Actually in fact, i would love to see a lot more transparency about the people who do invest in bitcoin, so the bitcoin story can be developed supported by more facts. So that way we will know who the interested parties are which will tell us lots about it.
The censorship issues you describe are describing people that already have money, so i don't know how these people don't follow in the above category. It sounds like these people don't want to pay any gov tax, well those are the kind of people that should stop using any of the services that society pays for using tax. They wouldn't go very far if that was to happen would they. I don't feel bad for them. If gov tax is such a big issue, why even live in society, money surely came to your pocket from society in the first place, you had to make it somehow, whether legally or illegally. So you definitely benefited. Essentially you are stealing from everyone in society when you are attempting to avoid tax or tariffs when moving your money out of the country. How much money do you really need man? The people that are investing in bitcoin are not living on a dollar a day.
Bitcoin is not for everyone and it does not make it easier for wealth to be distributed or aids upward mobility unless you count the early adopters which a lot of them just so happen to be insiders in the first place. Similar to insider traders.
Borders aren't going anywhere for a while. The real question is if these people have this money that are scared that it might be taxed or prevented from going out of the country. How did they make it in the first place?
The points you bring up have to do with people which do not want to support the society in which they live. They want to take more of the pie and bitcoin is an avenue for that at a larger scale than before.
I'm not looking for moral high ground here, but i just don't see how it benefits the regular population.
Ladies and gentleman, time to buy, it has been noted that suddenly bitcoin will solve the US health insurance problem. Right...
Smuggling will always occur before and after bitcoin.
That is a good point. I feel people who truly only have $20 to invest might invest in something not as volatile.
There is nothing in the protocol that will prevent anyone from hoarding or buying large amounts of bitcoin because they already have the capital to begin with. Therefore you can think of those people as similar to institutions or the 1%. So bitcoin is just another investment mechanism. That's all. No panacea here, just an over-hyped new technology that helps create profit for the ones who already have money. One that currently is only available to people who have enough resources to risk. The panacea that "bitcoin" was touted as across the web and forums galore, is just utter bs. I see a world of many private blockchain implementations but nothing that solves these censorship and printing money issues you speak of. Since according to popular theory when you print money your currency get devalued, but bitcoin also goes down when a gov say we don't like it or someone decides to start cashing in at a large scale or overhype of an issue or underhype of another. The end result is the same, less value.
But here are your answers:
1) You live and take advantage of many things you might take for granted in a society that has a certain framework that must be maintained by service providers and it is maintained implicitly by the hordes of people on earth, when greed occurs or kinks in the system happen, printing money or not printing money are just tools to deal with issues.
2) Last time i bought something on craigslist, ebay, alibaba, amazon or from Sandy down the street i don't remember any censorship. I could be mistaken though. Maybe i did not think about something. I would like to see an example of this payment censorship you say largely affected your personal life.
Now definitely if you are trying to buy armored tanks, automatic weapons, drugs, women, censored dildos, yeah i could definitely see censorship. I just don't try to buy those things. :)
Don't get mad now, my sense of humor is an acquired taste :)
When "the bitcoin" starting gaining momentum, i thought that "bitcoin" and the public distributed ledger was an exercise to see if the psychology of people has evolved to reduce the dependence on institutions and find out if inequality is because of these institutions or the 1%. However as we are finding out, the same problems are arising but with new technology. The ones with money to risk are playing the game and the public distributed ledger and bitcoin is yet to show us anything different other than the status quo. Who gives a shit if it's decentralized and "transparent" if the problems that a lot of people touted bitcoin/blockchain would "solve" are just replicated. Kinda like who cares if there are many choices, if you don't have the capital to exercise those choices. I am beginning to think that bitcoin is just another channel to speculate on that promises anonymity but fails badly at it. Maybe it's pre-packaging as an antidote to pre-bitcoin financial structure was empty. I don't see how the average world citizen is able to invest with these prices, therefore aiding mobility. I thought wrong... but sure wish i bought it when it was $20 :)
Majority of managers do not want people that see through their bs. After all they need to manage. Someone who sees through their bs is not as pliable as an inexperienced hire. They want the naivety because it is exploitable just like ignorance. Remember most managers are trying to move up and if you pose a risk, they won’t have that. This is also part of the reason why there exist so many collaboration tools. If we placed collaboration above competition just maybe the company would be a better place to work. Instead of this competitive minefield where everyone is just looking for the next opportunity to step up at the expense of others and at the expense of collaboration.
Of course privilege affords you a cushion for many things, not only taking risks. That happens in any environment since "money" correlates to a safety net which could translate into the ability to take time to work on what you want. Some countries which have more supporting social systems also support more risk taking, because if the risk taking doesn't work out, the social system will support you to your next career change or re-education programs will let you shift to another field you are interested in. It is much easier in these countries to stop working in your current field and shift to another field. Since education is payed by the state. In the US the divide between the risk takers and the stable situation agents can't only be associated with wealthy support network(family). Since peoples values and levels of what comfort is can vary dramatically. So dvts example actually illustrates this quite strongly. People from a third world country have put up with different levels of poverty or non-access to comforts, so what they consider risks or comforts are different than what people in first world countries consider risks and comforts. The other thing is that people that live with more risks and are brought up in risky environments are more comfortable with taking risks. Success in an immigration story is dependent on many factors, hard work and a lot of luck.
the smartphone is just a tool, how you use it is up to you! nobody is making you use it, but companies spend millions to figure out better ways to psychologically mindfuck you since you have been conceived. to get you to buy things or behave a certain away which leads to them capitalizing on your behavior. this is not new, one movie which describes this is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self the smartphone is simply the delivery mechanism because it is with you at all times, just like social pressure and environment, they all carry messages, but it is up to you to choose to respond and how to respond, one could argue that if you are conditioned like this since birth because of media, by the time you are an "adult" <-- whatever the fuck that means... and high on the legal stimulants and running on the hamster wheel which turns into profit, i doubt you will even notice. but the irony of all this is that it is all optional if you understand it so...
well there are so many companies out there, for sure this happens, someone sitting somewhere at a desk thinking... "i'm already making 200k but, i could definitely use a few more grand just to cover what i'm losing on taxes, damn taxes lol"
how is showing your mental prowess talking down to "them"?, that is what interviews are for, you probably don't want to work for anyone who can't stand in a room with someone smarter then them, remember everyone is different, you will only feel stupid for a little while or in a state of lacking something, but in some cultures this behavior would be taken as a direct insult, i agree with you there, but hopefully you don't live in those countries, where everything is personal and macho...
who cares, if you know your shit, you walk in the interview and make them feel stupid, make them feel like you have a monopoly on knowledge, like it oozes out of you and drips to the floor and if they don't lick it off they might miss something, lol, then they would be stupid to pass on you, then they will surely want you on their team. but you can only do that if you really learn or you can bs to a professional level
there are many ways into the castle, some people walk in the front door, some take the back door, some sneak through the side gate and some ride on the shoulders of others..., some fuck the manager or blow the boss, or maybe play golf at the same golf club or are in the same motorcycle club, or fuck the same prostitute and catch each other at the door and have an understanding, or have the same drug dealer
if you are sitting on the sideline keeping score, you might end up hungry while someone eats your bread.
it doesn't matter what color the cat is, as long as it catches mice. but my moms favorite quote was machiavelli's maxim, the end always justifies the means
i guess the question is, if you would be in their shoes? you would read this article and say, damn right!
i still think in a lot of corporate environments, money is definitely being made on the side by the decision makers when it comes time to pick an outsourcing firm, or award a contract to a contracting company, you know, you jack me off and i will jack you off later kinda thing, gotta grease the wheels of the company politics once in a while or else you might get caught not working
it is a possibility, i guess they would pay the journalist or influence his sources, i guess the old adage of who controls context or environment somewhat therefore controls opinion... similar to the sort of things that spy agencies engage in
i’m surprised not a single interest group has hired a company like cambridge analytica to influence popular opinion of bitcoin, or a fake news network to aid in pushing the price higher, not that we would know about it, the big players in bitcoin would benefit from a scheme like this, it would be a small investment for greater returns, i am interested to see if it will ever reach a point where people will feel comfortable with it’s volatilty, but i strive to understand how the control of bitcoin network and its software is not in the hands of who contribute code, are we trusting a few now compared to a few banking institutions, is that the underlying tradeoff?
Maybe the reason why a lot of “web apps” are so complex and huge has something to do with over engineering, developers loving lazyness as a good trait of their craft. Which results in undiscipline, then you add pressures from management to produce faster rather than focus on simpler solutions. I don’t see how these factors would not creep in into any “newweb” platform. Things are complex because of people, not machines. After all we made them so. Unless you have strict standards that are adhered to by lots of parties, i don’t see a way out of complexity, clutter, large size .js downloads. Then you add competition which does not have anything to do with rules, rather it loves breaking them to get a higher margin. That doesn’t really add simplicity to the mix. I happen to like the way the web is going and this “newweb” business sounds like the ever growing .js framework churn. I agree there are problems but definitely not structural enough to warrant a restructure. Then again that is the power of the web, anyone can pursue this.
I visited China for a month and my view is limited, but i do not think the average Chen in China cares about this, just like the average John in America doesn't. They are happy to be able to grow their personal GDP as much as they can. A lot of people there are part of the waves of the population that are provided incentives to relocate from rural areas to urban areas. Censorship is their least concern. They are happy to be able to have access to new products and start businesses and help their kids develop as best they can. Throughout my travels in other countries in Asia, i met a few students which will be going to Chinese universities. One of their reasons was that Chinese universities have bigger budgets for research compared to their respective countries. So that was highly attractive to them in their educational development. From walking around i got the impression that China inflates their GDP by constant construction and tear down and construction again. I am inclined to believe that this happens also in the tech industry. This churn creates jobs, companies in a loop and makes the economy look stronger that it actually is. I also saw many empty apartments and was told about this as well. Imagine how much money China would loose if people would solely use western alternatives of the apps they currently use. This GDP churn they have going there could not be done if your population is using solely western products. I do think there is an economic reason as well. I happen to like WeChat, you can do many things with it. I watched this dude i met there buy a hat from a street vendor and payed her with the app, super easy. The convenience that is baked in that app is awesome. I wish we had something like that in the US.
This is an interesting documentary regarding different relationship structures from the independents themselves. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4716560/
This is interesting, a old friend once said: "If a woman wants to cheat on you. She will cheat on you while holding your hand"
Now that the chauvinist statement is out of the way. Men cheat too. :)
I don't think anyone can say that monogamy has anything to do with raising children. I do not see why the barbarous requirement for having sex with one person needs to even be there in the first place. I don't have the same car for the rest of my life, don't drink the same thing or eat the same thing every day for the rest of my life either. Why not be able to taste other flowers in the garden as well. That does not mean i don't love or care about the mother of my child. As long as i take care of my responsibilities regarding my children. I see no reason why this requirement is imposed by society. Other than pure culturalism and brainwashing, which one could argue is indirectly the same thing.
Maybe it has something to do with possession. Maybe insecurity that my wife will like John's dick more than mine or love his Porsche more than my Buick. Don't you want to find that stuff out early about your partner vs later... Isn't your partners ability and her/his care for your children more important than who he/she wants to screw every once in a while. I definitely agree that if your partner is a nympho, well maybe you should not have stuck your dick in crazy to begin with or pretend to embody the white knight syndrome to it's full extent.
I think this "monogamy" business matters way more when the people in the relationship are unequal to begin with. If they are equal , financially for example, which i feel matters a lot when you are co-raising your children. You do not feel as betrayed because, as far as your hard earned resources are concerned, she/he is not taking any, only the children are. So who cares who your partners wants to screw in their off time. Which leads me to think of the next possibility, possession. My oh my, this person is mine and mine only. Lol It's 2017, we do not hit women over the head with cave man bats and drag them to our layers. But in some countries i guess we still do and we expect them to shut up when we tell them to and bring our beers over to the couch or else they won't get the credit card the next time they go to the mall. Wait, i just realized i just described some people i know. :) There are only a few feedback loops you can take advantage of. Lol
Parents can parent without marriage or monogamy. Why can't they?
This is leftover idealism imposed by the church and land-rights interest groups from ages ago. It just so happens it was enforced and people attempt to adhere to it. But obviously the statistics are against their success. The more women become equal and educated. The more divorce there is and the less babies get born. If those things are happening, i don't see any reason why changes in the family structure should not happen as well.
Usually a systems homeostasis usually communicates something about the nature of it's processes. The divorce rates should tell us something. Now that the gloves are off regarding divorce being taboo or being shunned by your social circle, this is if you are living in a country which does not look down on you if you don't want to put up with your partners bs anymore and leave. If you do, well clearly you are living someone else's life.
if you are on here at 17, you are doing alright! there is no recipe, remember some of the greatest writers did not lead traditional lives, greatest discoverers didn't listen to mommy and daddy and the people who changed the world didn't ask for a recipe, they created one! +1 for travel and question everything, especially the stuff you take for granted.
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Great! Now the NSA knows every Wi-Fi password in the world!
Which i am sure they are willing to share if just pushed a little.
Who cares what you call it? As long as it does what i need. Models, Workers, Controllers, Views, Events, Masks, Filters, Actions...
I agree it's relative, but the major reason those people like this "Coke" was because they've been fed images from the west about how they should be, don't you find it odd that most countries you go to, have some of the same things you have here? Coke, McDonalds, Marlboro, Burger King
That doesn't mean those things are good. If our society here in the west was focused on exporting things for the good of the people around the world, maybe we would export good education?
But you just cant export good things when everything is money driven, someone has to suffer, someone has to get the short stick from the bunch and in this case it is the poor people because they don't have enough power to do anything about it. They're problems are real, food, clean water, electricity, education so they accept our so called sharp toothed help because it alleviates some of their problems in the short term, but they don't have the right organization to stop us and say "no, you can't dump your shit(chemical waste, etc) here man", no if you can't find cheap labor in your country "we wont work for you here either unless you pay us the right amount" So the west knows this, corporations know this, so they go and exploit and keep it hidden from us because they want us to be at ease when we pay for their products at the cash register.
When you say there is little we can do, we can also abstain from putting forward idiotic ideals into their television sets so they go buy our shit because they think that is the thing to do, since television and ads are the only major exposure they get from the 1st world countries they look up to it because of their ignorance that there are problems there too.
We can also abstain from going over there and exploiting them because they haven't had the proper education to judge our causes in a equal light.
Yes there are things we can do, and yes not shopping one day is a start, i didn't say not shopping at all, but not shopping on one major day out of 365 days is not too much to ask, because if you want to make a impact it has to be substantial, its the same mindset corporations have when they go look for cheap labor, we need a place to make shit that will ensure us with substantial profits.
I've lived in a 3rd world country before so i know that you can make do with less and even here i make do with way less than the average hard-working american(including immigrants), even though i can live a life that includes many more material things, for me those things don't increase my happiness, so i choose not to.
And this western way of going about things assuming that the major problems of earth will be solved by the people who currently are in the have, is faulty thinking as well, no one can say that the person who can contribute most to this world can't be born somewhere in a very unfortunate environment but with the right treatment can grow up and cure cancer, develop clean energy, produce more efficient systems, for us to sit here in the west and pretend we are the only ones that can even deal with and attempt to solve these problems just because we are in the have category is ignorant.
On some level not providing the right education to all of the worlds population is shooting ourselves in the foot at a global level, because you never know where the major game-changer will be born and by not providing a good eco-system for those people to grow in, you are negating this so called progress ideal which is so feverishly rooted in our future
I guess moderation in peoples consumption levels and the types of consumption are relative, but i'm sure there is a line where they become dangerous for the rest of the people living on the planet, but we in the 1st world really don't understand where that line is since we are not faced with the issues other people in the world are, so we look down and say who cares that i have enough while you don't, that's just how things are, hurry up and get over here too so you can have this too, what happens when all the people do? what then?
We will just wait for someone else to figure it out while we comment on hacker news and have a beer and use the internet all at the same time and eat 1st world burritos and post on facebook with our 9 billion cell phones, all at the same time, hopefully we can all do this all at the same time, and in the process of figuring it out some of us are just unlucky to be born in a different vantage point, where we don't have cell phones, barely can carry water to drink to our families, try to fish in waters that are not polluted, education is scarce, all this because the ones born into the more favorable vantage point wait for others to fix the problems while they fat on their couches and complain that obesity is a problem because the corporations feed us fat food, and to think that we can actually help those people if we just want to? if we just approached the problem with the same vigor as we approach securing our oil-reserves, but who gives a fuck, all we do is just sit here on hacker news and complain and bitch and comment and feel good because we get points and we are on the main page but it all equates to nothing and i am guilty for it, so i'm going to go out and get breakfast at one of the many places available to me, happy thanksgiving
The criticism is: economic liberty, mobility blah blah, you need discipline at the individual level to balance that. Good education from parents and the eco-system you take part in, but i guess that is under your "certainly not sufficient" bit, but i believe that discipline takes you farther even in a not so ripe economic situation, i've seen joyful people in poor conditions, i've seen people bettering themselves in no to ripe conditions
i think this is the classic problem of people trying to fix their situations from the outside in, instead of from the inside out, ex: better economic situation = better people, but that is clearly faulty logic, i think it should be more like better people = way better economic situation
but then again why would a system that depends on its economy so much enforce such an idea: "better people", better people doesn't make enough money as it stands for them, that is why they don't put that in their ads instead of "buy this because of (some bullshit reason here) messaging" because "buy this because of this fucked up reason we created for you" makes more money, period,
politicians don't give a fuck about you and me man, they care about numbers, because of their vantage point, the ones that do end up getting wiped out, as we have seen throughout history, just like this new awesome movie lincoln shows "man wants people of all races to be free" get asassinated because of people with no self-discipline and no fucking compassion that were mostly focused on themselves
history really explains a lot about us, and so far it looks like we really haven't learnt too much
i wonder to think, what would the world be like if people in current power positions would actually be altruistic, sounds like a pipe dream to me