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yeah you should definitely not be getting rate limited, sorry this is annoying you're not the first to report i will dig in.
as far as support, i know there is a huge effort going on right now to improve response time and support in general, also I'm not as active in discord as I ought to be there's just so much noise, feel free to ping me on there directly if I can help brandon/@ygwyg. can't promise it'll be an instant response but I will respond
sorry to hear that's been your experience. i actually joined through an acquisition about a year ago and one of the main things we've been focused on is the dashboard and overall dx.
sadly "hostile ux" is a phrase i've heard more than once and we're working hard to improve. if you're open to it, would love to hear more about the issues you've be running into
I'm also very biased towards Cloudflare (I work there), but I have to say it did make launching this really easy. Workers + Hono for the APIs, R2 for the images, D1 for database with the option to migrate to Hyperdrive if you outgrow it.
Really cool idea
Humans get HTML, bots get markdown. Two tiny tweaks I’d make...
Send Vary: Accept so caches don’t mix Markdown and HTML.
Expose it with a Link: …; rel="alternate"; type="text/markdown" so it’s easy to discover.
Happy to answer any questions, super excited to be part of the team and help make Cloudflare's developer experience better. Not just bells-and-whistles ;)
thank you!
Thanks for posting this!
We are super excited about the opportunity we have in front of us at Cloudflare, happy to answer any questions y'all might have.
That was a rough read, not really sure I understood the authors point. It was kind of all over the place, bad because AI, bad because not really open-source, bad because doge...
Only thing I really left with was the author doesn't like the word gum. Seems like a hit piece on Sahil? Pretty sure the open-source part of Gumroad has been in the works for a while.
Hi I'm one of the founders of Outerbase, just want to clarify a few things, seems like you might have some wrong information on Outerbase.
Big fan of Mathesar by the way!
1. We have a incredibly powerful CRUD editor on our table, in fact you can drag and drop and select multiple columns & rows, I haven't seen many other DB editors support this.
2. We allow you to pick foreign key constraints from a dropdown as well.
3. This is true.
4. Outerbase is open-source with more and more features heading into our core offering there. https://github.com/outerbase/studio
It is everywhere these days, I mean it always has been, but now people are talking about.
Love the Turso team!
I heard you all will be joining a different union of sorts here soon enough.
It's actually mentioned in the article OP posted, but if you want to read more you can here: https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/07/carta-the-cap-table-manage...
I don't know why anyone would willingly sign up for Carta these days.
Between this and the fact they got caught sharing private cap table data, it's like they're actively being hostile to their users.
Yes, I will add Linux support to the roadmap!
Would the browser version suffice? If not we support running commands like:
$ npx @outerbase/studio \ --port=5000 \ --user=admin --pass=123 \ mysql://root:123@localhost:3306/chinook
This is good feedback, we are working on adding in transaction support to the open source version. For what it's worth, our cloud product wraps everything in a transaction.
We support adjusting the JSON config file so you can update it with your credentials!
outerbase.json { "driver": "mysql", "connection": { "database": "chinook", "host": "localhost", "port": 3306, "user": "root", "password": "123456" } }
We could definitely do something like that, question for you if you've used any sort of AI -> SQL generator do you think it replaces the need for something like a visual builder? Or is it still nice to be able to construct them with visual blocks?
Appreciate the kind words! Will dig into performance and see what we can do to further optimize it!
Apologies you had such a subpar experience, I'll look into what is going on here!
Great idea, I'll get it added to the roadmap!
This is great feedback thank you, we will work on adding in a compact mode!
Awesome, I'll check it out!
Yeah you can definitely do that, I referenced how we do it in another comment. The electron app and running it locally allows you to use TCP protocol which isn't available directly in the browser.
It's mostly just a nicely bundled way to run it if you aren't very technical but still want a easy to use database client.
You can also run commands like this to connect to your database if you want:
npx @outerbase/studio \ --port=5000 \ --user=admin --pass=123 \ mysql://root:123@localhost:3306/chinook
Definitely! We actually embed studio as part of another one of our offerings. It's actually iframed in, but you could achieve similar results if you wanted to dockerize it.
https://github.com/Brayden/starbasedb/blob/main/src/studio/i...
Great point, I am a big fan of how lightweight Tauri is. We have used it in the past but have got hung up on some of the browser APIs not being supported.
I'll have to look into it again, it could have just been a skill issue.
Thank you for explaining this so clearly. We were very cautious in choosing the license for this exact reason!
We love open-source and want to give back fully to the community. The AGPL felt like the most open license that still protects against outright theft — something we’ve unfortunately experienced in the past.
Thank you, I hope you can stop building those and use us instead as well :)
I've never used Firestore directly, but I did see Firebase's recent announcement about Data Connect. It seems like it could act as a bridge to bring your data into Outerbase. Do you think that would work?
Yeah – we love all of these new databases, we actually partner with Cloudflare, Turso, etc... to make sure we can provide the best experience possible.
That would be really cool, let's chat!
Can you email me brandon [at] outerbase [dot] com?