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Regular people can only hope that cooler heads and more sense can avert this obvious disaster. It's like watching cars about to crash into a brick wall, yet drivers have their foot firmly on the accelerator, instead of the breaks.
guise of democracy
That's a very appropriate term. There has always been various forces who either believe the majority of citizens don't deserve democracy or that they are above it.
You do indeed appear to have a valid point. Many "chosen" companies, like Uber for example, appear to have broken numerous laws. Legal action against many such companies comes suspiciously slowly, where they have already obtained massive profits and value, before the possibility of being shut down comes. Then, when they are finally pulled into court, they have all kinds of money for the best lawyers and have already paid the right politicians (and others).
When the legal judgements for wrongdoing are finally handed out, they often come across as just an inconvenience or kind of tax, which is easily handled in comparison to the profits they've already made. Yet, if average Joe or persons not considered as being of "the right type" were to do such actions, they quickly get the full book thrown at them. Often, the full measure of legal punishment, where their company and life is or about nearly over.
This is arguably a dangerous fallacy, particularly for anything critical. When the person doesn't know programming, it becomes harder to guide agents and do reviews, leading to overlooking issues and accepting mistakes. This gets amplified for any creative solutions or fixing future problems, where it is something the LLM was not trained on or has limited data about the subject. Plus add how much money spent on tokens.
Maybe a way for non-programmers to better understanding what they are saying, is to think about translation. It's kind of like saying a person doesn't need to know anything about Spanish to now sell LLM translated books from English to Spanish.
Yes, the LLM can do translations for you, and quickly. But, as you don't know Spanish, you won't know how good the translation is. You are less likely to catch all kinds of mistakes, from bad grammar to wrongfully translated idiomatic expressions. The less Spanish that you know, the more likely you are to be impressed or fooled into a false sense of security. Then when native and fluent Spanish speakers read your books, they may rate it as mostly gibberish and nonsense.
Agree. AI behavior, when interacting with humans, is based on making money. Making people feel uncomfortable or challenged, will usually not be the preferred business strategy. But, it would be interesting if people could easily select the AI's personality type or to what extent it can be adversarial to the comments or ideas given as input.
Not that they never had the idea, however, this was not mentioned in the article. The point was by getting there quickly enough, they wouldn't need to worry about hibernation for trips to Mars.
Hibernation for humans was never going to be an easy feat, as animals that do it, have all kinds of genetic level adaptions. For Mars, arguably not worth it, unless a scientist makes a lucky discovery and it's relatively easy to implement.
It's a no win trap, except for the tech bros cashing in on investors burning money. Data centers using up the available clean drinking water, people with no jobs paying higher electrical bills, stressing the electrical power grid to the breaking point, historically unparalleled IP theft to divert money away from creators and their content consumed with tokens...
https://isaiprofitable.com/ (Is AI Profitable Yet?)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/largest-i... (“The largest IP theft in human history”)
https://www.recordinglaw.com/news/authors-protest-ai-empty-b... (Don't Steal This Book)
https://finance.yahoo.com/energy/articles/why-ai-boom-break-... (Why the AI Boom Is About to Break the U.S. Power Grid)
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2026/1/21/ais-growing-thi... (AI’s growing thirst for water is becoming a public health risk)
The point about crypto is worth exploring. Many would prefer to cut the middleman out and crypto can be a way to do that.
The scary thing is that if they can so easily turn a blind eye to funding another country's obvious crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing, that they can do so domestically as well. Many would argue that the domestic infrastructure to perpetuate such is being rapidly stood up.
The other solution is to get there faster. The most likely candidate, for get there faster, is some form of nuclear powered propulsion.
Way too many people like to reach for the easiest path. They will often assume or have blind faith that the AI or online answer is correct. Coming up with the solution themselves or taking time to understand why something might be the correct answer, can be just too much work to be bothered with.
Nobody here is talking about the fact that a significant number of users want apps, too.
This is true, as it depends on the nature of what is being presented and if offline usability is preferred or doable.
Everything as a website, can arguably be an equally bad fit for situations, as everything as an app. Flexibility and careful study is required.
It's more like, “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." If there is no or not enough resistance, certain sadists and egomaniacs see that as a sign to power grab and cause suffering.
And often, the person doesn't need nor are looking for a job, so are just getting continually spammed. Where if you are actually looking, you can email your personal list of recruiters, of companies and persons you actually know or were recommended by real life friends.
The visa sponsorship angle has to be factored in as well, as they may believe a few desperate for a visa candidates would show up. Happens more than people are aware of.
A large percentage of companies will underpay people or even commit wage theft, if they can get away with it.
There is also the fact of newer "closer to C" alternatives like C3[1] and Zen C[2], or more intriguing C family alternatives such as Odin[3], Jai[4], or Vlang[5].
Zig is kind of trapped. It can't go "head to head" with heavy weights like Rust, who specialize in safety, are more mature (post 1.0), and have lots of corporate support. Then there are the other C alternatives, who each offer something it doesn't have.
It appears the only way for it to maintain its position, is through heavy hype and marketing, but the whole Bun ordeal and extensive beta issues are subtracting from any such attempts.
[2] https://github.com/zenc-lang/zenc
[3] https://learnxinyminutes.com/odin
I don't see any hate
People know what jealousy, slander, and unprofessional behavior are. Including how the V project is treated, regardless if certain others pretend not to or try to blank out others for noticing.
What's your involvement with the language
Just responding to the comments of others, like the truthful one made by f-serif.
Not part of any V organization, just use the language (and some others). Which is more than I can say for a number of accounts where their profiles clearly say they are directly part of or work for the Zig organization.
I think the open to close ratio needs to be provided in any such comparison. It would arguably give a better indication of which project is doing a better job at addressing incoming user issues and bug fixes.
To make a better comparison, you have to add up Zig's issues on GitHub that weren't brought over and abandoned.
That would be Zig's 700 or so Codeberg issues + the 2,700 or so GitHub issues.
Vlang is a ridiculous project
With over 37,500 stars, over 2,300 forks, 826 contributors, books written on it (in Japanese and Portuguese, besides English), and a Wikipedia page; vlang is clearly a significant and successful open-source project.
entirely driven by hype
People can plainly see Zig (and other HN pushed languages) directly engaging in marketing propaganda and hype (with HN accounts clearly stating they are from those projects) using social media (including HN) at levels way beyond anything anyone could accuse the V project of doing. The creator of vlang is also not a native English speaker, where the creator of Zig (and other competitors) have no such excuse. They know exactly what they are saying, the connotations of it, the cultural nuance surrounding it, and what it means in English.
ridiculous that it got $800/month with nothing to show for it
Jealousy over vlang getting as much (or more) donation money (in 2019) from its supporters was a central theme in numerous social media and website posts made directly by Andrew Kelley[1]. Even to the extent he and the Odin creator[2] were asking people to give them money, instead of to the V project. Many would consider such behavior as extremely bad and unprofessional. Also note, there is no reverse of such behavior to be seen by the V community at them, instead we see uncalled for conduct and statements being directed by them towards the V project.
Donations that vlang had received and continue to receive, is from their supporters. Some of these paying supporters have even come to HN, to publicly express their support[3][4][5] against competitor false accusations and disinformation. Competitors should have nothing to do with someone else's supporters giving donations, in the same way that vlang's creator does not speak on who donates or supports their projects.
I haven't seen any hate spread for it by Zig.
It is documented, on HN no less (and elsewhere), where people can see Zig's creator directly slandering vlang's creator[6] and this kind of unprofessional behavior encouraged followers to do similar.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39495369
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20231704
[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31801287
[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31801262
There is clean(er) and safer renewable energy. The human race doesn't have to pollute and climate change itself into near extinction to greedily chase prosperity at the expense of its children's future.
And that's the trap. Relying on a "perfectly" crafted test or a LLM to verify what is unknown. Yes, LLMs can be very useful, but perhaps it's best for us to be realistic.
making the computer check its own work
Kind of like the Spanish teacher telling his students they can grade their own tests, then being surprised that Billy was always giving himself 100%, when he's nowhere near that bright or fluent.
It wouldn't be so bad, if people were more upfront with being unsure or made it clear they were extrapolating from smaller and limited data. But usually, like many of these unusually cocky LLMs, what is too often reported to the public is "perfection" and many inconvenient truths "swept underneath the carpet".
At what point are people going to have a conversation about all the pollution and the consequences of so many satellites burning up (metals and other toxic stuff) in the atmosphere and fragments falling wherever.
100k... how much can we keep putting up and let keep falling around the world? Multiple other companies and countries want to do the same as SpaceX.
Yeah, like to see more disclosures about this. Not to mention the whole background debate on the real costs for the AI companies, at what point prices go up to reflect that, or the possible consequences of being overly reliant on this technology.
This is what I have observed as well. Been through many debates about the "perfect plan" and "perfect tests" fallacies.
Maybe a way of looking at it, to understand the nature of the issue. Have a LLM translate a novel from English to Spanish. Of course it can do that translation at speeds that no human could (score a point for AI). But how good is the Spanish translation? Is the quality better than what humans could do? Wouldn't those who are not fluent in Spanish be more easily impressed?
We then can do all kinds of configuration setups and tests, but how do we know the Spanish was translated perfectly, without a massive detail review (and being already truly bilingual in both English and Spanish)?
As is the usual case in the pursuit of perfection (which nothing in nature ever seems to be), there is going to be mistakes, costs (worth it?), and gray areas. It would be foolhardy for us not to suspect or pass it off as otherwise.
Even in that context, to just be constantly flagging human actions, can be argued as reflective of a dystopian future. Always being monitored, and every viewable action recorded, categorized, and flagged.
Exactly. Already decided to eat there and sat down. At that point, "whatever", for any noticed or not additional minor charges.
That multiple people are clarifying that the slaves weren't immigrants (along with giving references) or that others have a different opinion about something or terms used, is not trolling.
Unfortunately, too many people are getting captured by marketing and are divorcing themselves from reality. A rewrite can be an improvement, even if in the same or any other language.
But, there are also levels, in terms of quality and human code review, when dealing with rewrites. New bugs can be introduced or there can be style issues, that can take time to fully reveal themselves, and particularly if the person or people involved are not familiar with the other language.
I see what you're saying, however, the terminology used (immigrant) and then percentages given, were debatably incorrect and misleading. Please refer to reading material, where it makes it clear that slavery is not immigration[1][2][3].
Immigrants go through a set immigration process, where they make a voluntary move to a new country. A huge portion of the American population were not immigrants, but were rather subject to involuntary migration (aka slavery), going as far back as 1526 (hundreds of years before the USA was created). Thus a better term would arguably be "migrants" (without distinguishing between voluntary and involuntary).
And that is what binds them together... they all seperated from the old world... The us is a phyle of choice and you must have made that choice...
It is a false dichotomy or representation, that America is about those who are indigenous or not, or old world choice for the new.
[1] https://lithub.com/dont-call-slaves-immigrants/ (Don't Call Slaves "Immigrants")
[2] https://www.thewitnessinc.org/blog/african-slaves-not-immigr... (African Slaves Were Not 'Immigrants')
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/09/... (Slaves weren’t immigrants. They were property.)