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I'm really glad that option is there. I had an emergency involving a seizing dog and a round trip to the vets office. The driver was incredible and would have gotten a whole $9 if I couldn't tip.

I worked in a US based office for a global company. The benefits were pretty awesome- down to them paying for my home internet, but our US based benefits were still quite weak when compared to our counterparts around the globe. The US working hours were longer and when I went on overseas assignments I found that their quality of life was higher than ours overall. It's quite depressing.

When I started looking for a job last March I realized that the monetary compensation from the offers I had were within a few thousand of each other but on only one of the interviews did multiple employees bring up that they were a true 9-5 and people actually get mad if you reply to emails after hours or do work during your off time. Their offer was $4000 less than the others and they didn't seem like they wanted to negotiate. I took it anyway and I now work 40 hours or less per week, I leave my computer at the office and I don't feel guilty for not having access to work when I am not at work. So even though I make a little less yearly, I am making quite a bit more per hour.

I wish more people in positions of choice would prioritize a true work life balance. Not only has it been great for my physical and mental health, non-developer employees get the same treatment as it sets a company standard.

I can't believe how long I bought into the culture of giving up a personal life to get a head at work. I used to put in 60-80 hour weeks and still feel like I wasn't contributing as much as I should. Now I have hobbies(!) and I think I solve more programming problems working in my garden than I ever did sitting in front of a computer.

Women also have to deal with those arrogant colleagues, and then we get to deal with the outright sexist ones and the ones who don't realize they are treating us differently because we're women.

When these things are brought up it's not to say only women have to deal with these things- we get to deal with all the regular bullshit and a little extra.

Like a an extra layer on a bullshit cake.

That's more of a consequence of the erosion of anonymity in the Internet, than you being a woman.

No it's a consequence of men seeking out my social profiles on other sites and offering to give me "extra help". Also dick pics.

I'm asking people to critically examine a concept and judge for themselves

That's exactly what you're being asked to do. Women in the spaces, including myself, aren't looking for things to be angry about, we are looking for acceptance and the ability to enjoy our hobbies/passions and professions in peace. Insisting that everything is just a misunderstood friendly gesture is ridiculous and part of the larger culture that make certain groups of people feel unwelcome in tech.

getting along takes work, takes giving people the benefit of the doubt, and it takes leaving your ego at the door.

And once again, why do you think that women haven't already examined this and realized that the interactions they have in certain environments are something beyond needing a little understanding? It's not like women walking into hackerspaces haven't been around nerdy, awkward men before- half of them are nerdy, awkward women.

Implying there's a simple solution that is summed up as "women don't understand!" is ridiculous.

I always give people the benefit of the doubt? Why would you think that women aren't?

I am an awkward person with social anxiety. The idea that women like myself aren't already doing that is part of the absurdity.

Why would you think that women are looking for something to get offended about?

If I was looking for something to get offended about I wouldn't hide behind male usernames on Stackoverflow, my local user groups, Hackernews (obviously not this account) and Github to avoid conflict. I just want to be a normal part of tech communities, on and offline.

It's absurd that you can write off the large portion of women who say there's a problem because you don't want to examine you're own internal biases.

I am a female programmer in my mid thirties. I've had careers before tech, I learn new things all the time.

I have the ability to tell the difference when someone is treating me a certain way because I am a newbie or because I am a woman.

It's incredibly insulting that every time this is brought up it's written off as women not understanding basic human interaction.

I don't know if it's a poorly throught through PR stunt or if it's just a vanity / mid-life crisis thing, but it sure wasn't executed smartly.

Or he just wanted to do what he thought was the right thing. I hire day laborers through a local service on a regular basis. I pay the workers directly and I am supposed to give them $9 an hour. I typically pay them $15-$20hr an hour at the end of the day.

I make at least one round trip flight at least once a week. The thoroughness and extent of my search varies greatly depending on which co-workers I am traveling with. When I am traveling with mostly white co-workers it's very quick. When I am traveling with non-white co-workers we always end up waiting on at least one or two people who have been selected for a secondary screening.

Nice to know that this time consuming, expensive and racist process is also pointless.

I spent an obsessive night searching through documents via online 'reading rooms'. I don't have the links anymore but theres mounds of documentation showing intelligence agencies doing shady shit like this to try to break up civil rights groups. Fun look ups are 'blank panthers', 'san francisco', 'socialist', any black leader.

San Francisco seems like a broad term but there's so much interesting stuff, they were watching school teachers in the 60s and 70s and trying to create distrust within communities that were too left leaning.

http://vault.fbi.gov/search http://www.foia.cia.gov/

Men and women are socialized in different ways. You're using an awful lot of conjecture to make points I wasn't touching and never intended to. When either gender does something out of their 'roles' it's harder.

Men are socialized to 'be smart', competitive, ect. Being a social, caregiver is what women are socialized to do. I never said that either gender, men included, can't do things outside of their roles.

There are so many little things you can do to make everyone feel welcome and comfortable, a lot of companies do these things for women and minorities but everyone benefits.

-regular checkins -coaches/mentors -make sure that everyone participates in meetings/dev huddles. Often toxic environments stem from just a few individuals who are louder than everyone else. No one else is ever heard and doesn't feel like part of the team. -make sure people feel empowered to do their job and more. get rid of micromanagers. -management should be open to feedback and act on it.

Feedback is the key ingredient. Make sure employees have a channel to voice their opinions and that it is acted on.

Maybe I'm too geeky and other people actually need physical humans like themself to cling to? :) That's a weird idea.

A huge issue is that many, many people don't recognize that not everyone has the same needs as them. It's actually very refreshing to see someone point this out, even if it's in a sarcastic way.

Too often conversation take a turn into "Well I did X without help, why should anyone else need help to accomplish the same thing". It's counterproductive to learning in general.

Women in Tech aren't a hive mind. Like the author states out everyone is different. Heck, there even differences in companies, regions, industries, ect. The reason I point this out is because these threads sometimes devolve into users taking one comment and using it to derail conversations. Like claiming that X is invalid because it can also affect men, therefore Y and Z are also invalid.

I am a woman and recently moved from San Francisco to Portland. The tech community feels totally different here. I've gone to a few meetups and haven't dealt with any of the small (but annoying, insulting and constant) issues I'd learned to try to ignore in San Francisco. It's really re-energized my love for the industry and what I do. If I had taken this survey before and after my move my answers would have been drastically different.

About 5 years ago, at age 25, I found out I had a thyroid tumor for the second time in my life. My employer based coverage dropped me citing a surgery I received at 16.

Not only was I employed full time, I was restarting school. I lost everything. Tuition I paid, loan privileges, I had to sell everything, my credit sucks. Until the ACA went into affect I avoided doctors, even for big stuff because I was terrified of getting my family dropped.

I can go to the doctor and many people I know from cancer support groups can get insurance now, I'm not just talking about those who don't work, it was really hard to just get a company that would cover you when you've had cancer multiple times.

I know it sucks for some people but it's helping so many people who really needed the help.

Why do you think more women graduate? Why complain that women have it better than actively trying to make it better for men? I'm trying to figure out why you have such a skewed view of society. You're certainly incorrect about how trans people are treated, especially with authorities.

What do you mean men don't have universal voting rights? Are you talking about felons?

You know two men who became trans for better treatment? Considering the issues trans people face you are full of shit.

Interesting how accounts trying to claim that 'women have it so much better' are always green accounts. If you believe in your comment why not use your actual handle?

Why do you think women have a better chance? What can you do to help men?

I try to explain this to people all the time. Most of my childhood friends/family worked much harder than any I know now and are just barely making it, some not at all.

I watch friends in the Bay Area spend everything-save nothing and then call the homeless kids in the Haight lazy bums. I have a savings but if the tech bubble did burst there's a very real chance I could end up home. My family doesn't have wealth and some of my siblings are already homeless.

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This was poorly written. I'm still not sure why the author dislikes feminism. He jumped from one topic to another, without supporting facts anywhere.

The biggest thing I have an issue with is this paragraph-

I happen to believe that many well meaning people of many causes damage their cause by basically forcing people to deal with their "diversity" first, instead of of being able to deal with people as people on their own merit.

If you feel like you're being 'forced' to deal with others diversity you should rethink being in the tech industry. Being in the tech industry means being able to deal with change and new ideas. Part of everyones merit is their different backgrounds, value sets and experiences. Equality/fairness is not treating everyone the exact same. It's absurd to be how undervalued diversity is in the tech world, it makes it's hard to believe that sexism/racism isn't at the heart of it.

Diverse teams make better decisions: http://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/better_decis...

Diversity increases creative: http://www.eidi-results.org/pdfs/EIDARTICLE1-17-12.pdf

Diverse teams produce better results: http://www.inc.com/welcome.html?destination=http://www.inc.c...

Diversity makes for greater success in venture: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_26086229/tech-workforc...