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Fair enough. The majority of it does seem useful.

From what it logged about you, it does seem you're working on some cool stuff too!

Thanks for posting this! I haven't used ChatGPT much due to worries of something like this possibly existing.

Curious if this make you less or more likely to use OpenAI products in the future?

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How did Scott Adams go from this to tirades on twitter?

To maybe add a helpful analogy. Some meditative states aren't very different that an intense dose of psychedelics. Not to mention the person is "dosed" without expecting it.

If it's done unsupervised or without a support system such as a guide or teacher, the experience can be traumatic.

Meditation and therapy aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, for people who have traumas, I would say both are necessary. Very few meditation teachers are trained in handling a psychological crisis and mental break downs happen often in retreats and self-led practice.

The jhanas were describes in the suttas. You can verify it yourself. Leigh Brasington has a lot of resources making them more accessible, https://www.lionsroar.com/entering-the-jhanas/.

I would agree that the jhanas are hallucinations and initially not subtle whatsoever. By repeated exploration of the jhanas you learn that the states are wholly dependent on many things not under your control. Application of these states in real life is a whole different animal compared to simply being able to access them as well.

* Edit: If you do decide to dive in, the first jhana can be very disorienting. It's definitely a good idea seek help in integrating the experience. Feel free to message me, and I can help or at least point you in the right direction!

There are "attainments" or maps. A lot of teachers don't communicate them since it can be a bit of a trap, since striving to reach an attainments can prevent you from reaching it.

More contemporary dharma teachers have been willing to go into it. The jhanas is one such map.

As an intermediary step simply being able to stay with your breath for an hour while still being aware/not falling asleep is a good goal.

Is there a way to filter simple gamified education tools vs the type of tools you allude to? I understand not wanting to dox yourself, but as a new parent it's difficult to vet education tools before my child is already enrolled and using potentially poor education tools.

It comes down to initial belief that they can be helped.

This part is definitely key. The other part is believing they need help or should work on something.