Fiber UI Experiments

https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/fiber-ui-experiments-conclusion/

by jrepin • 11 years ago

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sarreph• 11 years ago

Does anyone happen to know if there is a pre-release? I couldn't find anything with a cursory Google search...

mianosm• 11 years ago

Seems like there is not: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoroni...

Source code or GTFO was the response, and seemingly its all theory so far....

seibelj• 11 years ago

Is the only innovation in how customizable the UI is? I guess it's way too hard to write a new rendering engine. With the existing ecosystem of chrome / Firefox / safari extensions it will be difficult to gain traction.

adrusi• 11 years ago

Note that this is a kde based browser. I got the impression the the author didn't even plan on porting it to non-linux OSs. Its not looking for mainstream adoption, it looks like its just trying to be the next kde web browser, one that integrates well with the kde desktop environment, like epiphany on gnome.

userbinator2• 11 years ago

While more new rendering engines are good too, having more flexible and customisable UIs is something that mainstream browsers seem to be actively moving away from, so a new UI on an existing rendering engine isn't such a bad idea.

brador7• 11 years ago

There's a gap in the market for a simple and fast browser that takes privacy seriously.

butterfi• 11 years ago

Epic?

brador7• 11 years ago

Not open source, so it needs to be asked, what's their business model?

minthd• 11 years ago

Firefox with extensions ?

brador7• 11 years ago

Firefox has the code that secretly sends a hash of every file you download, with your IP and computer fingerprint, to Google for "verification". I only found out after a post about it here on HN.

But I'm interested, what Firefox extensions are good for privacy?

serverholic• 11 years ago

I'd love a web browser that uses an idea similar to vim's tabs and buffers.

Each tab would be a grouping of sites and you could use Ctrl+P to open a fuzzy search for sites in that tab.

Edit: And maybe there could be a mode where you fuzzy search the contents of the site too.

sirn• 11 years ago

I think Vimperator/Pentadactyl with Panorama (aka Firefox's Tab Group) might fit this requirement.

Currently I have two Panorama groups, general and work. I can use Ctrl-N/Ctrl-P to switch between each tabs in the group, and can navigate to other Panorama group with Ctrl-Space. All of these are also accessible via Vimperator command b where it will list all buffers and I can filter or navigate to it by tab number of tab name.[1]

A dedicated browser that does this out of the box would be nice, though.

[1] http://i.imgur.com/svKZh23.png

Edit: Or even Firefox with Panorama alone, since I think Firefox now jumps to tab when you search in the navigation bar.

romanovcode• 11 years ago

Really nothing new with tabs on the side. As I remember IE did this on IE9? It wasn't too good so they reverted it back.

jafingi• 11 years ago

Looks great. But really need a tab sidebar. This works really great on big monitors when you have many tabs open. Instead of stacking up in the top bar.

curiousjorge• 11 years ago

so another browser? what makes this one different? would it be safe from drive by downloads and other exploits? do you have a team and an army of QA to make sure new patches are released on time and make sure vulnerabilities don't linger?

userbinator2• 11 years ago

"Tabs on Side" is more accurately described as "tabs stuffed into the address bar."

This is what I think of as being "tabs on side", and it works great on a widescreen monitors:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

lewisl90292• 11 years ago

I'm a long time user of Tree Style Tabs also, but I wish it had a better autohide implementation. The current implementation performs poorly (seems to rerender the tree structure animations on every unhide), and isn't responsive to touch input for unhiding (although Firefox for Desktop just sucks for touch in general, so there's not a huge loss here).

Tabs on side with autohide is the best of both worlds, in my humble opinion. With static tabs on side, the loss of horizontal pixels is mostly inconsequential when running the browser maximized, but really hurts when you want to snap the browser to one side of the screen on a 1080p monitor (and have dev tools on the other side, for instance).

I wish some browser vendor would implement something like this natively to make the feature more discoverable. I'm sure it'll be a hit amongst power users and be a powerful differentiator. I remember Chrome having side tabs in development at one point, but it was scrapped for reasons I no longer remember.

mc_hammer• 11 years ago

are the tabs done in QML? as a qml developer i would really love to be able to use that code if they are! any plans on sharing it?

sergiotapia2• 11 years ago

There's room for a third browser that is 100% open source, built on desktop technologies (non of this HTML/JS nonsense) that takes privacy to absurd levels.

I wonder why one hasn't popped up yet, there are lots of people in the tech industry who would switch in a heart beat. I would still use Chrome for my dev work but the only URL Google would see is localhost.

dominotw• 11 years ago

I wonder why one hasn't popped up yet

Because all the sites need html/js nonsense ?

sergiotapia2• 11 years ago

You misunderstood. I meant browsers built with something like QT or .NET - another other than HTML and JS. See Atom's performance for why it's a bad idea to use web technologies for something that needs performance.

adventured• 11 years ago

It's a case where the existing solutions aren't perfect but are plenty good enough, and building a high quality product requires an immense amount of effort and long-term support.

clinta• 11 years ago

I really wish that Microsoft and Apple would introduce tabbed windows for the entire OS with some good extensibility and customization options so that application developers aren't pressured into implementing window management as part of their application.

Having every application implement tabs differently is a frustrating experience. Those who've fallen in love with tiling window managers on Linux will sympathize.

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