Porting third-party programs to TempleOS

http://blog.jwhitham.org/2015/07/porting-third-party-programs-to-templeos.html?

by adamnemecek • 11 years ago

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x5n14• 11 years ago

It's really cool that people are doing stuff with TempleOS if for nothing else than to broaden their horizons. Maybe when the aliens from ID4 visit, we'll be ready.

learc83• 11 years ago

In ID4 it's implied that our computers are based on technology we've been slowly reverse engineering from the Roswell crash. There's also a deleted scene with a throwaway line about how he's able to write the virus so quickly.

yodon• 11 years ago

See also the official CERT Advisory [1] on vulnerabilities in the ID4 Alien/OS, warning of potential denial of service attacks by inferior life forms and recommending various workarounds in the event that planetary takeover is necessary (yes, it's a joke, but having been published within hours of the first screening of the movie this may well have been the fastest CERT vulnerability response in history)

[1] http://users.rcn.com/alderete/humor/comp/id4.html

shurcooL• 11 years ago

If someone were to port the Go compiler to it, there'd be so much more software that could run (natively, statically, no runtime library) without additional effort from the software developers.

donatj• 11 years ago

If someone made a Go compiler for it, I'd switch - today.

binarycrusader• 11 years ago

Actually, given how few system calls (relatively speaking) Go makes, it might not be impractical.

TheDong• 11 years ago

because go makes networking so easy, many go programs avail themselves of the network. Even dead trivial programs often use the builtin jsonrpc.

TempleOS has no networking stack and thus porting any of that portion would require significant kernel changes as well.

I have no doubt that there are many other "minor" things like networking that would rear their head on attempting.

It would still be a really cool project to see how far you can get and what compromises would have to be made.

lmm• 11 years ago

What's so good about native, static, no runtime library? Why not a language with more useful software available, like Python? Even if you do insist on native compilation, why not OCaml or Delphi or Haskell (which have more useful software written in them, even if only because they've been around longer)? What's so special about Go?

guttyworks• 11 years ago

would be funny if Temple OS ended up being better than everything else

kev009• 11 years ago

This is kind of what happened to OpenBSD, which started as a pretty hardline thing but is now one of the best PC laptop operating systems out of the box.

x5n14• 11 years ago

this is a relative understanding, not an absolute one.

VieElm• 11 years ago

Well it's lack of security makes it probably not an OS you'd want run untrusted code on. Like if you made a browser for it I'm not sure it would be easy to sandbox it to protect your computer from serious harm. Any program can read from and write to any part of memory if I recall correctly.

x5n14• 11 years ago

on the other hand the chances of coming across a virus made for TempleOS is rather unlikely.

MichaelGG3• 11 years ago

Please explain how that's different from today on other OSes. A JavaScript exploit or other browser corruption is still an issue on current browsers, right? (I only see one Firefox process on my machine, so I'm gonna guess if you break the browser, you have code exec with my user access level.)

Grazester• 11 years ago

That would be very unlikely. It has no memory protection as someone else alluded to, has no networking and I dont believe it is open source either.

barbs• 11 years ago

It is open-source:

http://www.templeos.org/Wb/

So I imagine someone could code networking in there somehow.

brudgers• 11 years ago

Frotz feels to me like a pitch perfect choice for extending TempleOS's ecosystem. A job well done in so many important ways.

olalonde• 11 years ago

The "alien" nature of the project makes it interesting.

TempleOS would qualify in some ways as Outsider Art[0]. I wonder how many such "outsider"/"alien" projects there are out there...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art

zifnab06• 11 years ago

This guys father (grandfather?) runs a bookstore in either Lewiston or clarkston. I met him years ago and thought he was slightly crazy bragging about his sons work. Interesting to see it's actually used.

x5n14• 11 years ago

Everyone needs something to be proud of...

moreInfo12342• 11 years ago

and his son is kind of infamous. Not mainstream, but a lot of people know who he is and what he's done.

dsil• 11 years ago

The author of TempleOS posted to reddit/r/programming, and is commenting on it there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3cd4sn/somebod...

Lapsa2• 11 years ago

Terry's TempleOS and folks interacting with him and his OS always reminds me XCom game - as if that's some kind of empathy pinnacle. deeply touching

Lapsa2• 11 years ago

"The next step would probably be to get some sort of Curses emulation running, so that Nethack can be ported."

make this happen! playing Nethack on TempleOS would be indeed an enlightening and holy experience O_O

pluma• 11 years ago

Doom seems like the more obvious choice, thematically speaking.

EdSharkey• 11 years ago

I think it would be funny if there was a prophecy that Chain World would one day be ported to TempleOS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_World

chippy• 11 years ago

TempleOS and broken Ruby FFI/C binding libraries are the two main drivers making me want to learn C. Writing stuff within TempleOS would be more fun!

Narishma• 11 years ago

TempleOS doesn't support C. It's written in a language called HolyC.

shaurz• 11 years ago

C programs spread like viruses.

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