Paul Rand and Steve Jobs (2011)

http://www.printmag.com/featured/paul-rand-steve-jobs/

by seatonist • 12 years ago

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chiph• 12 years ago

The genius in this is how Paul led the reader from one variation to the next (no pun intended), until ultimately arriving at his final proposal.

spacecadet• 12 years ago

If you drop money on a brand from a real design firm, you get this same booklet. It's common practice. I've had to both design brands and the booklet's we gave to clients, as recently as a year ago. Of course a year of R&D, Market/Competitor Research and Design Studies cost our client $150,000.

Usually budget logo design; from freelancers etc, result in you getting an email with x number of Options and little to no reasoning.

joezydeco• 12 years ago

It's common practice

It's salesmanship! When you spend six figures on a logo, you are certainly going to enter the final presentation with a lot of skepticism. Presenting the final work this way alleviates that anxiety.

You have to wonder if some of that salesmanship rubbed off on Jobs and if he carried that into his later years at Apple.

johnloeber• 12 years ago

Reading that design booklet was marvellous. I loved tracking the evolution of the idea.

However, I feel as if there's some risk taken in delivering an entire booklet that slowly tracks the germination of an idea. This risk seems to consist of two aspects:

1) the assumption is made that the entire booklet will actually be read, and that the reader doesn't become sidetracked by e.g. disagreeing with some statements early on

2) the idea proposed in the end has to be very good, a final proposition to merit the entire booklet. Booklet-style design probably doesn't lend itself to rapid, iterative generation of ideas.

psweber3• 12 years ago

Less of a risk when you are as established as he was by 1986. I think it was safe to assume that Steve Jobs would appreciate and digest the format. A standard 3 concepts on poster board presentation would have been much more risky, given the audience.

josephpmay• 12 years ago

Compare to this (Pepsi logo redesign booklet): [PDF] http://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-...

abc_lisper• 12 years ago

Yeah. I remember reading that one. I can see it is bad, but honestly I don't follow what Rand is saying. I always thought the Next logo kinda looked bad! But that may be because I don't have the aesthetic sense.

nemo1618• 12 years ago

what...the hell am I reading. The last two pages especially -- "Dimensionalize exponentially?" Not to mention all the golden ratio BS. I'm struggling and failing to imagine a scenario in which this document could be presented with a straight face.

trhway• 12 years ago

so they did redesign the logo recently. I didn't even notice. Though i'm not a significant drinker of *cola.

Anyway, just went to the fridge - yep, Pepsi cans of the new design there - the saturated solid blue color of the Pepsi cans (with lesser saturated colors of the logo itself) looks less sophisticated, more proletarian vs. Coca cans on the same shelf. Well, may be i'm already on the other side of the generation gap, and ultimately it depends on what new generation would choose.

rmsaksida• 12 years ago

gravitational pull of Pepsi

Is this an actual design document or just satire?

Loughla• 12 years ago

That's not a real thing, right? I missed this joke?

Is marketing really that utterly laughable?

psweber3• 12 years ago

1. It's real 2. No 3. Generally, no

imjk• 12 years ago

Reading that document a few years ago lead to an epiphany for me in realizing that there may actually be value in some of the BSing you're forced to do in school. I think human nature leads people to seek deeper meaning and explanations, and the BS assignments force you to create convincing rationalizations that satiate that need. This is particularly true when you're trying to justify spending a lot of money on more abstract things like, say, a logo redesign. From what I remember, Pepsi paid the firm that put together that presentation about a million dollars for that logo. Granted, I think it's a good logo and certainly an improvement on the old, but I don't think that the artist(s) actually looked to Da Vinci's Mona Lisa or the expanding rate of the universe for influence. That's just the BS rationalization that was added later to help them close the deal.

mmxiii• 12 years ago

in realizing that there may actually be value in some of the BSing

I don't know if this is the conclusion to take away. The OP of this topic is an example of where meaning and relevance does exist for design decisions, and can lead to a very thoughtful conclusion.

The Pepsi one, in contrast, is just applying as many functions/transforms on a problem, and hoping some of the results look OK.

gohrt• 12 years ago

And the end result is http://www.hookedonads.com/pepsi-logo-is-actually-a-fat-guys...

cschmidt• 12 years ago

Paul Rand was different than many logo designers, in that he just presented a single solution, rather than letting the client pick from several. He worked out what he thought was right, and that's what you were going to get.

This is a pretty good book about Paul Rand, for the curious: http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Rand-Steven-Heller/dp/0714839949/

ics• 12 years ago

And for a book by Paul Rand, I would recommend A Designer's Art if you can find it.

http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Rand-A-Designer%60s-Art/dp/030008...

FreshPuzzles• 12 years ago

You can see Rand deliver the goods in this video http://youtu.be/BNeXlJW70KQ?t=51s

glhaynes2• 12 years ago

I love Paul Rand but I've never loved this logo and I don't think any amount of explanation of it could ever cause me to. And I like even less the way it caused them to write the company name ("NeXT"). Complicated, ugly, a distraction. Un-Jobsian.

Hell, even the name "Next" has always struck me as indulgent and the opposite of product-focused: it was more evocative of the question everyone was asking ("What's Steve Jobs going to do next?") than of great products.

aleem• 12 years ago

While I am no fan of this particular logo as a matter of personal preference, the "NeXT" character-casing is better than just "Next" or "next" since it creates identity.

Identity creates recognition and unlike "Pepsi" which is a unique word, "Next" is a fairly common word and without some sort of identity it would go easily unnoticed in regular writing.

On a related note, I always found that iPhone, iPad, iPod, i* is one of the best product naming schemes I have come across, not just because of the strong identity but also because of it's extensibility to new product lines.

ams6110• 12 years ago

Interestingly, the operating system name was written NEXTSTEP without the lower case "e"

mentos• 12 years ago

Crazy to think Steve Jobs spent 12 years of his life at NeXT.

psweber3• 12 years ago

It is very important to make people fall in love with the idea before the reveal. Great example of that.

RexRollman• 12 years ago

Honestly one of my favorite computer logos ever.

Paul Rand and Steve Jobs (2011)

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