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It's a cost that American open models will seem to have to pay but not international.

It goes both ways - American companies and their business are protected by American laws and have access to the market protected by those laws, etc.

Distillation isn't a copy. Distillation is more akin to "clean room" implementation.

I think both are natural and fine. Otherwise we'd have to outlaw analytical thinking.

The judge found their use is fair use. They are paying not for their use of the content, they are paying for using illegal copies of the content.

The same principle can be applied to distillation - it is a fair use. You just shouldn't use illegal ways to access the models being distilled.

To the commenter below: if it is illegal - has the police/FBI report been made? Otherwise it is just a civil court matter.

a level of creativity in model creation that isn't present in distillation.

the same argument - a level of creativity in the world knowledge creation that ins't present in the model training on that knowledge.

Or in other words - model creation and training is just a distilling of the world knowledge.

So, HF didn't call FBI because it was supposedly done by an AI and not by a real person. Reminds how Uber got easily off killing a pedestrian because it was by AI and not a by a real person too, even though Uber explicitly disabled whatever emergency braking the car had.

So, new excuse seems to be emerging - "it was an AI". One can imagine a law enforcement questioning the AI to find out whether the AI did it accidentally on its own or was specifically prompted by some human to commit the crime.

In Russian opposition's mostly liberal discussions their school of thought connects several things together (sorry for not going directly to Marx's "General Intellect" and "Fragment on Machines" and using AI summaries instead ) - general idea of communism in China vs. techno-libertarianism of Thiel, Musk and the likes, and the Marx's thinking like:

"Fragment on Machines":

"he explores how human knowledge and collective intellect become embedded into machines, divorcing the worker from their own creativity."

"General Intellect":

"These texts are widely discussed for his concept of the General Intellect—the idea that society's shared, collective knowledge increasingly drives production rather than raw manual labor, and that this knowledge is alienated from workers and used as an instrument of capital."

(note: my point isn't to pass any political judgement here, like what real communism in China or not real, is it good or bad, i just find it interesting that pure political discussions by people with no technical credentials bring AI as a major factor today)

That is the strategy - you start with the easy cases - somebody who wouldn’t or couldn’t defend themselves and who is “bad” in public perception.

Obviously talking about probes/tech, not "biologicals".

human brain has 100T synaptic connections. We already have 2 trillion parameter AI models. Parameter count grows more 3x per year. It means that in 4 years we'll have 100T model. My point here is that by the time we have probes to send even to the closest star, the biological brain would be the inferior option, and most probably we'd even be able to upload, just as fun small companions-observers, a bunch of people brains into what by the time would be a superintelligent 100000T+ parameter AI brain of the probe.

You wouldn’t need such massive deportation system and thus optimizing it into hub and spoke if you had due process - most deportations are self deportations people sign under the duress of the conditions ICE put them into, and thus no due process.

What we have here is a buildout of the due process violation system not a due process implementation system.

anything going out there for those long journeys would/should be big, so there would be enough walls, storage of supplies, reaction mass tanks, etc. to provide significant protection.

NASA and Starlink have already been using ion drives with 10x ISP of chemical rocket engines. Using such drives a 3 stage with existing nuclear reactors as energy source can get to 150-200 km/s.

While it haven't been built yet, nothing seems to prevent ion drive even with 100x ISP of chemical rocket. That means we can get 1000-2000 km/s (acceleration with existing reactors would take about 100 years) and get to the closest star in 1000 years.

does this mean that any effort to question or regulate technology translates to "primitivism"

more so than not. We are highly adaptable, and that is our strength as a species. We are that adaptable because of our brain, and we have such brain as a result of adapting again and again. We should pay more attention to how to adapt to new tech at individual and social levels, and that adaptation would in turn again advance us. Whereis strict-prohibition-like-measures really play against our adaptability as they favor slow-to-adapt traits of our species, again at individual and social level.

There are of course cases where our adaptation is very limited - like for example highly radioactive environments, and so we chose to strictly regulate nuclear tech.

Practically speaking i'm all for government funded job retraining where it is possible, and for strong safety net to soften social impact of new tech. And in particular nothing prevents the government to charge a modest tax on each token and use those collected taxes to support the affected people.

The medium shapes the message and induces behaviours from us.

Basically the Homo Sapiens history is the history of making and using tools. That is for example how we got the hands we've got, and our social organization was shaped by agriculture and later by the mass production and now more and more by information technology with AI becoming the major part of it.

I am also afraid that it will create a worse future than the one that we had until now.

were hunters-gatherers better of worse than agricultural village dwellers? There is no clear answer. I feel that each stage of the progress made our lives better while some people want "back to the caves" though i think they probably never spent a night under open skies.

I think deployment should slow down and research should be financed and diversified.

You can't slow down it in all countries at the same time. And thus slowing down it in any given country would just put that country behind.

Everyday creativity is aggressively regressing to a mean.

I don't see it that way. I see it as the routine and toil that we perceived as everyday creativity and professional work is getting compressed out like repetitive values and patterns out of a data set - that isn't surprising giving that the core nature of AI training is encouraging pattern recognition/generalization and producing internally de-facto a compressor and a decompressor as a result.

A human may have seen 10 instances of something with minor variations - and would think that is creative. AI after seeing it 1000000 times and generalizing accordingly - this is a recipe for producing a 1000 more with desired variations according to the specification.

That naturally doesn't end creativity. It just raises the perceived bar, which really has always been there, for what is real creativity.

lithium is $22/kg, 100KWh battery is 10kg lithium, i.e. the question is can you do it for $200?

The core is the same - totalitarianism.

The machine may happen to be the Nietzsche's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übermensch . Nietzsche analytically extrapolated and foreseen the shape of the things to come, while the state of the tech at the time didn't allow to foresee the actual implementation.

We're Konrad Lorenz's geese, desperate to be led. It's the path of least resistance.

Us being that way may also be considered a result of evolution driven by the natural selection enforced by the society (similar to how we breed cattle for weight and milk production or turkey for wide breast).

how else would you control 2M drones at the same time? Mechanical Turk? Or aerial fight with an enemy AI, thus much quicker reacting, drone.

Like sharpshooters, the drone operators are usually executed instead of being taken POW.

not least because the drones it's talking about barely have the resolution at altitude to resolve that detail.

the drones are used in groups. That is for example how we have a lot of footage of the drones hitting targets. The drone observers or especially the intelligence drone guiding the group would frequently carry much better camera than the actual kamikaze drones (especially when it comes to high-resolution IR cameras which are expensive). In the fully autonomous AI mode the drone is usually given small target area where to operate (in particular because they aren't yet smart enough to differentiate Ukranians from Russians, so you'd like to confine their operations to a limited area and not letting it into the totally free hunt) and regular 4K camera is sufficient there. Again, there is a lot of footage on YT an TG.

Half the time it is the nighttime and the things are in IR https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47000051 . You may still try to camouflage and decrease your IR visibility - stealth planes try to do it, and there are some IR-decreasing covers for tanks and people.

The night time hunt using IR is widely practiced today in Ukraine and even was widely practiced by US and USSR in Afghanistan and Iraq as surroundings gets cooled down and cars, people and say donkeys used to transport weapons in mountains become highly contrast against the surroundings and thus easy to spot visually and to lock IR seeker of a weapon. Saddam used USSR anti-ship missiles, old even then, to attack Iran oil storage tanks at night as the missiles were easily able to lock on that large bright IR emission of the tanks still hot from the day against the cold night desert.

Especially apocalyptic given that they had never knew such things possible.

Later it became routine.

https://youtu.be/YtCTzbh4mNQ?t=62 (narrator saying - "the mushroom cloud reached 65km altitude" ) Our high school military preparedness classes teacher was a retired "Captain of 2nd rank" (subcolonel equivalent in USSR Navy) who had served at that "Novaja Zemlja" islands nuclear testing range. He was describing that regular nukes they would just watch from 20km. While large hydrogen bombs they were watching from like 200km, and it still was awe-fear-inspiring.

"Nuclear Tourism: When Atomic Tests Were a Tourist Attraction in Las Vegas, 1950s"

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/atomic-tourism-las-vegas/ (cool sight https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o6mAaNEPm8g/X212lrhyZPI/AAAAAAAD4... :)

It's easy to forget how different the Middle East looked before the conquest of Islam starting in 600 AD.

it naturally looked differently due to different climate. For example there was booming agriculture in Carthage back then - modern Tunisia. The climate warming during the first millennia made Mediterranean Basin less grain-production and animal farming suitable while more suitable for the nomadic Arabs riding out of Arabia. That warming also made life more convenient (in particular conditions became much better for agriculture, the backbone of the civilization) in the previously cold and swampy Mid and North Europe where as a result we see the wave of rise of the civilization.

Coincidentally, we have Caliphates decline and Reconquista happening when the climate started to cool down toward the Little Ice Age. The map of Reconquista looks like a geographical climate regions map https://stuffedeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/what-was-... (compare to https://www.spanish-town-guides.com/photo/spain_climate_map....)

kind of reminded USSR history of 100 years ago - a mostly agrarian country destroyed by war and revolution doing jump into industrialization with electrification being the driving core of it (the other major factor was GULAG - electrification plus unlimited free labor - winning formula :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOELRO

"In 1920, British writer H. G. Wells visited Soviet Russia and met with Vladimir Lenin. Wells believed that it was impossible to realise the Russian revolutionary’s plan, as he wrote in his book Russia in the Shadows:

For Lenin, who like a good orthodox Marxist denounces all "Utopians," has succumbed at last to a Utopia, the Utopia of the electricians. He is throwing all his weight into a scheme for the development of great power stations in Russia to serve whole provinces with light, with transport, and industrial power..."

Our civilization is converging on electricity right now. 200 year ago electricity looked like a set of disparate phenomena. I wonder if in 200 years we'll be basing our society on some new energy form instead of electricity - something like gravitational conductors or some StarTrek singularity generators and plasma coils.

If you expose your private database's raw SQL access to public web, i bet people will find a way.

The same way here, i see the main issue isn't prompt injection, it is publicly accessible agent having access to private repos. What is the important use case for such a config that it warrants such basic security violation?

You really don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t you? You’re from a Western country, right?

White collar criminals often get caught later in their "careers" precisely because they do it for years and years and years without being caught.

You’ve definitely never seen the castles and fleets of exotic cars that government officials in those countries manage to get on their meager government salaries. Yet you post such authoritative comments …

What Cold War propaganda did to Western brains is tragic.

Some weird fantasies you have.

I grew up in USSR. So very well familiar with inner workings of such regimes.

And he did this as a public servant for over 30 years.

and it was discovered just now? May it be that he played exactly by the rules, the real rules, of the regime - corruption being among the foundational rules of it - and thus it was going for 30 years? And right now he just got his turn like it usually happens in totalitarian regimes. The regime will for show find an excuse to execute you if you got your turn, corruption is just the easiest one.

Also note that corruption is for the officials, state treason is for regular citizens. Same as in Russia. The regime wouldn't want to create impression of political disunity among the officials.

Violating the public trust should be extremely harsh.

definitely. The only question why the comrade Xi is still not executed?

As Stalin demonstrated even when you're totally loyal, you're still frequently made victim of the terror.

The point of totalitarian regime is that nobody should feel safe, nobody should have an agency. In particular the people shouldn't be able to obtain safety themselves even by the way of being totally loyal.

I have no doubt that that guy was corrupt like any other official there. Yet, he isn't punished for the corruption. The show needed another star, and he was chosen to be that star.