Frame.io: A GitHub for Video

http://frame.io

by johntraver • 12 years ago

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64mb• 12 years ago

Autoplay music? No. Stop that.

mahouse• 12 years ago

Autoplaying music = instant close

jackmaney6• 12 years ago

That is an excellent idea for a browser plug-in.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

haha :)

higherpurpose• 12 years ago

Since the entire site is basically built around the demo, I think it's fine in this case, and improves the experience of seeing the demo.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

you got it! it was hard to tell it was even a video, with out it!

AdrianRossouw2• 12 years ago

So famo.us has got a pretty bad reputation, but it's actually a really good idea.

The code is actually really well written too, and I'm sure that any bugs it has.. vis a vis scrolling etc.. are not design faults. They can be fixed.

This is probably the best technical explanation I have seen of what famo.us actually is :

http://ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-famous/index.html

XaspR8d2• 12 years ago

Wrong thread? Or do you know something we don't about Frame.io's choice of interaction framework? :)

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Yea looks like the title got edited. This Signup page is built in Famo.us

argonaut• 12 years ago

I don't get the hate famo.us gets on HN. But to be clear, their code isn't the best. Their code is quite janky in places and is very poorly documented (in the source and in the docs). I'm also pretty sure the bugs it has are design faults. All of this can be fixed, though, which is why I like to take a "wait and see" approach with famous.

malandrew• 12 years ago

While we're aware of some design issues that we're currently working on addressing, we'd still love to hear what you think are famo.us' current design flaws and how you think things should be implemented differently.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

The music is in the video, that autoplays on scroll completion. Sorry if it annoys you.

teh_klev• 12 years ago

Unfortunately it is truly annoying and very loud. Maybe warn folks before they blast that out their speakers in the wee small hours.

hamsternipples2• 12 years ago

yeah, brings back those myspace memories for me. the browser even became unusable as well - just like it used to, with those decked out myspace themes. (actually, it's amazing to think that IE survived some of those profiles.)

suhailpatel• 12 years ago

The video should play if the user prompts it. To be honest, it's not the video but more the music/sound which bothers (so maybe do what Facebook does and enable sound when user clicks or something?)

bderusha• 12 years ago

You can add a muted attribute to HTML5 video tags (muted or muted="muted") to autoplay the video without sound

hamsternipples2• 12 years ago

most video advertisements start out with the volume muted, then you opt-in to hear the sound. that'd be my suggestion, at least

solomone• 12 years ago

Pretty slick video. The page is pretty buggy is some annoying ways. The chrome gesture for paging back doesn't work since I assume it's grabbing the mouse. When you page back or forwards to the page it reloads and it's white.

XaspR8d2• 12 years ago

I didn't even know I could scroll down because holding the down button did nothing.

That said, I do agree the video is really nice, and it's been a while since I saw a promising approach to collaborative video editing.

JoshTriplett• 12 years ago

I didn't even know I could scroll down because holding the down button did nothing.

Wait, you can scroll down? There's no scrollbar, page-up/page-down/up/down do nothing, space does nothing. The site seems to be completely inaccessible to keyboard users.

jackmaney6• 12 years ago

Please, please, PLEASE don't automatically play audio upon the page load.

Serious question to the creators of frame.io: what makes you think that it's okay to do that?

michaelmior2• 12 years ago

I thought that was the case too. But it seems it actually starts on scroll.

jackmaney6• 12 years ago

That's only epsilon better. The only time that a web page should play music is if the user clicks on a button to start a video or play an audio clip. That's it. Period.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

sorry, if the page was laggy and you initialized scroll, the pages scrolls to position and autoplays a video. It does not happen on load, lessons learned

jackmaney6• 12 years ago

Please reread my first comment. I've said nothing about the page being laggy. In fact, on my system, it didn't lag at all.

What makes you think it's okay to automatically play sound when the user starts scrolling? What were you thinking? That's not a sarcastic put-down. I would like to know what could have possibly been going on in your brain when you thought that this was anything but a horrible, off-putting design decision.

makmanalp• 12 years ago

Probably something along the lines of "if we put a play button and a video not many people click it so why not just play by default?"

michaelmior2• 12 years ago

The site is incredibly laggy for me to the point where it's not usable.

CSDude• 12 years ago

Pricing info would be nice. It will store and serve probably huge files, and multiple versions of them, meaning the storage and bandwith usage will quickly climb, and I suspect it is going to be expensive.

ninjastar99• 12 years ago

Like this a lot. Well done. Heads up - collaborator is spelled wrong in your demo video (right hand side).

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Thanks! foreign designer! :)

danso• 12 years ago

OK...must..not let...autoplaying video...harshen critique...

So can the OP elaborate how this is the "Github" for video, rather than, the "YouTube for Video"? Because at a glance, from what's on the page...A "Dropbox for file sharing, Vimeo for video review, and Email for communication" is what I would consider YouTube to be (well, Youtube + Google+)...

A Github for Video would, in my mind, involve some kind of diffing thing...and a way for collaborators to do something like freely tinker with audio/video, all at once, and share and merge those iterations in some much easier, more harmonious way than just uploading clips to the cloud and annotating them, which you can already do with YouTube.

(also, the video on site, on the iPad, seems to be unresponsive to the replay button, which makes it hard to review the demoed details)

That said, this is definitely a cool thing to try out in theory. I'm especially interested in seeing how bandwidth issues are handled (or if a slight sacrifice in resolution and fidelity is the tradeoff...and if that tradeoff is even possible with the tastes of the intended audience)

johntraver19• 12 years ago

You are right. The github part was for the tech community and only refers to version control videos, and EDLs, or Edit Decision Lists, to track changes in an edit. From version to version. Thanks for ending on a high note, most of our industry response has been wonderful

mbesto• 12 years ago

Why even target the tech community? This looks like a pure Hollywood play. I would stay away from Freemium-esque model here. I've worked with quite a few fashion companies and they'd eat this up...

drpancake• 12 years ago

Looks like a great idea. But good luck implementing those iOS-style blurring effects in a real browser.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Caught us there. currently it is only an purple tinted overlay!

grumblestumble2• 12 years ago

hrrrrmmmm? https://twitter.com/Frame_io/status/489843710918541312

sim0n• 12 years ago

Not efficient and only works in WebKit but -webkit-filter: blur(Npx) makes a nice effect

grumblestumble2• 12 years ago

that will only blur an element, not the visible area underneath a translucent element. drpancake is referring to blurring the playing video is it scrolls underneath the title bar. this is pretty much impossible to do in HTML/CSS with moving content (video, gifs, etc), and only possible to do with static images by doing some very janky canvas hackery.

ziyadb• 12 years ago

I actually found the music and the video demo excellent! Great demo of your app.

The music was especially beautiful, I even looked it up. It's Planet Love by DJ Quicksilver in case anyone else liked it.

Don't let all these comments about auto-playing audio put you down. Great experience!

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Well that was positive! Thank you! btw I turned it down to 25% in the last 10 minutes, I think it was at full blast before :)

nanexcool• 12 years ago

I'm reading in the comments that there's more on the page if you scroll. I'm using a laptop with no mouse and no scroll on the trackpad and neither Page Down nor Space nor the arrow keys work.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

This unfortunately is a problem :( This was a demonstration of the new Famo.us framework and their scrollviews not not support bars yet!

AdrianRossouw2• 12 years ago

It's also using the first release of famo.us, and there was a new major version since, and one incoming.

akoumjian2• 12 years ago

Full disclosure: I'm the CTO at Nimia.

At Nimia (https://app.nimia.com) we already provide all the basic features listed here. You can archive, share, transfer, preview, comment on collections of videos. Available right now, no waiting for an mvp release.

You can also privately license your work to clients, publish it to our marketplace, etc. We have tools to promote your individual brand and also have a whole host of collaboration tools that are in the pipeline.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Nice to meet you, I have seen many competitor companies take this opportunity to offer their services, they certainly exist! We are two years beyond MVP. Look forward to seeing you around!

akoumjian2• 12 years ago

Nice to meet you as well! It's definitely a great space with a lot of room for development.

theseoafs• 12 years ago

What awful design. The video in the background is nice but you don't need to take over my scroll wheel and you DEFINITELY don't need to blast a song at me without my permission.

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Thanks for the input!

thoughtpalette• 12 years ago

I thought the design was beautiful. Both the site and client.

taylorhou2• 12 years ago

solid. good to see more upstart competition in the space. I'm founder of remarkhq.com

besides the autoplay bashing in here... lol, the site is pretty slick.

definitely wish you and the frame team the best of luck. I'm sure we'll meet again. :p

and just to troll a little: kudos on the 1k bot followers on Twitter...

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Thanks! glad to see friendly competition! and no we launched yesterday, we do SNL digital short and have huge industry rep. Elijah wood even signed up.. No fakes yet :)

taylorhou2• 12 years ago

sign ups and name dropping are so totally last year. actively engaged is what counts. =p

http://imgur.com/7lWWrtU

muglug2• 12 years ago

Demo looks incredible. Well done.

What sort of transcoding infrastructure are you using?

johntraver19• 12 years ago

Rolling our own for wider support. We have a special in, in the industry, and will be supporting RAW camera formats like no other :)

muglug2• 12 years ago

So you're not even using ffmpeg? It's used by Dropbox and many others - https://tech.dropbox.com/2014/02/video-processing-at-dropbox...

I'd imagine that'll be the biggest bottleneck, especially if you intend to transcode raw video with data rates of > 1GB/minute

Lidador• 12 years ago

Nice video! Source: https://d2vj41uy1yy43g.cloudfront.net/empire_state.webm

iliaznk• 12 years ago

Finally I heard my MPB's fan spinning...

Frame.io: A GitHub for Video

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