IPv4 Address Report

http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html

by akg_67 • 12 years ago

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0x006A• 12 years ago

anyone knows of an up to date list of providers that offer ipv6 to end users?

diwo• 12 years ago

See http://ipv6-test.com/stats/. You can filter the list by country to see results by ISP.

The data is collected from users that visit the site and take part in the test. Keep in mind that the data isn't conclusive as the end-users location, and his hardware, effects the providers offerings and the statistics.

mmaunder• 12 years ago

Yes migration to IPv6 is essential, but virtual hosting for websites and NAT for ISP subscribers provides a way to indefinitely postpone IPmageddon. This never seems to be mentioned. Also once a block is assigned the actual usage is unpredictable and not reported on that I'm aware of - I know several folks who have blocks assigned by their DC and they're only using a fraction.

AndrewDucker• 12 years ago

So far as I can tell NAT for ISPs is brought up pretty much every time that IPv6 is mentioned on HN.

And every time people point out that it breaks the fundamentally decentralised nature of the internet and makes it harder to run P2P services.

And also, pretty much every time someone mentions unused blocks, and someone else points out that even if we reclaimed the largest known blocks that aren't publicly routed this would only expand the timeline for a few months.

tormeh• 12 years ago

it breaks the fundamentally decentralised nature of the internet and makes it harder to run P2P services

Well, those are two things ISPs don't care about...

muppetman• 12 years ago

It annoys me you're being downvoted. I don't necessarily agree with you either, but I see nothing worthy of a downvote here.

thrillscience• 12 years ago

I don't believe it. It's just like those "peak oil" people. We just need to drill more; we can find more IP addresses.

hhw2• 12 years ago

Only for a while.

Right now, ARIN IPv4 addresses are easier to get than ever before, as providers are handing out IPv4 addresses out like candy so that they have as much IPv4 space under their control as possible when ARIN runs out.

The next phase, as has already begun in the RIPE region, is where IPv4 addresses are bought and sold on the private market. Right now, they go for published rates of between $7-$15 per IP, depending on the size of the block they're sold as. This will probably go up dramatically once all the regional registries (and in particular ARIN) run out.

We'll probably then see the price of IPv4 addresses go up higher and higher, as utilization efficiency increases. It remains to be seen how high the costs will go, but it will probably get to a point where the costs of acquiring IPv4 will generally be higher than the costs of implementing IPv6. It will likely only be then that we see wholesale adoption of IPv6. Large portions of the Internet may begin using it before then, but the problem is that IPv4 will continue to be necessary until the whole of the Internet is on IPv6.

eli• 12 years ago

But IP addresses aren't really fungible, are they? What's the smallest block you could actually transfer to someone in another part of the world?

scrollaway• 12 years ago

Funny you make that comparison and take away the completely wrong conclusion from it.

You do know IPv4 addresses are a mathematically limited set of numbers right? Once you're out of it, there's no "let's make up more numbers" or "Maybe we'll look in other dimensions" (funnily enough that's what NAT does). Not for oil, not for ipv4, and not for green parallel lines that form a red circle.

marcosdumay3• 12 years ago

I don't believe thrillscience thinks we can find IPv4 addresses buried underground. I think you are overreacting to a joke.

jlawer• 12 years ago

What really surprises me is that by this graph it really seems APNIC is better rationing its allocation the most of the other RIRs with it projecting still having small numbers of IPs available for crossover after 2020.

Part of this is that APNIC have limited all new applicants to a /22 when they hit a final /8 available. Existing registrants were offered an ADDITIONAL /22 as their final allocation, and due to successful hand-back of unused space, an additional /22 allocation is available for existing registrants.

It seems to ensure that small players (such as startups) can still enter the market and build a viable product without having to worry about it until they are using more the 1024 IPs.

p1mrx3• 12 years ago

APNIC is being fairly conservative with their final /8, but the big graph doesn't show the feeding frenzy that abruptly stopped in 2011:

http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/fig27h.png

Interestingly, the allocation rate has picked up again in the last month or so. I'm guessing that's related to the recent announcement about the "IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space".

chx• 12 years ago

I find it very interesting how few /8s are actually advertised vs how many are handed out -- if those graphs are collect then the difference is a quarter of all the IPs???

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