Show HN: Sports betting between friends

by jbogp • 12 years ago

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With my friends we wanted to have a nice friendly competition (no money involved) about the football worldcup by predicting the results.<p>I though this might interest other groups of friends so I coded a website just for that in 3 days.<p>Nothing ground breaking but I like the suscription system "Doodle" style with just links, no personal infos...<p>Tell me what you think !

jbogp11• 12 years ago

With my friends we wanted to have a nice friendly competition (no money involved) about the football worldcup by predicting the results.

I though this might interest other groups of friends so I coded a website just for that in 3 days.

Nothing ground breaking but I like the suscription system "Doodle" style with just links, no personal infos...

Tell me what you think !

luchosrock• 12 years ago

Can you put that info in the original post?

Kiro• 12 years ago

You can't put info in link posts.

jbogp11• 12 years ago

I wish I could !

Edit: Well Actually it would help if you could upvote my comment. At least it'd be at the top of the pile.

darylfritz• 12 years ago

Can you explain the numbers on this page? I don't understand what they represent: http://nospronos.com/en/tab/grandchallengemondial2014

Note, I haven't registered to provide my own input.

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Sure, it's the scores for when the competition starts!

So far the worldcup hasn't begun so everybody is at 0... But when the games are played the ranking will evolve !

See the rules for more precisions : http://nospronos.com/en/regle-jeu

loopasam• 12 years ago

This is fun, but basically the website will die after the worldcup? Do you intend to make it work for other sports even?

jbogp11• 12 years ago

I've created it for the Worldcup, but yes if I get a bit of traction I can make it work in no time for other football related events (Premier League, Champions league...) or even different sports (I'm thinking Wimbledon, Rugby worldcup)

nkg3• 12 years ago

Great! I was thinking of doing it myself. You are right on time :)

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Glad I could help, I hope you and your friends enjoy !

nkg3• 12 years ago

(Comme tu es Français, je me permets...) Je suis sûr que les friends vont aimer, mais les faire adhérer et suivre, c'est la partie difficile de cette affaire! As-tu prévu de mettre des notifs sur Facebook ?

RankingMember• 12 years ago

Friendly spelling check: "No suscription process" has "subscription" spelled incorrectly.

Also: "That's why you're here, aren't you? Do your forecast until the day before the each game, look at the stats, have fun with your friends !" has an unecessary "the" between "before" and "game". I'd rewrite the whole thing as:

"That's why you're here, aren't you? Do your forecast until the day before each game, look at the stats, and have fun with your friends!"

Still kind of an awkward sentence though.

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Thanks ! Copy/pasted your suggestion. English is not my greatest strength.

By the way I originally wrote everything in French. If some people prefer this just go to http://nospronos.com

mikelbring• 12 years ago

http://gamblino.com lets you do the same thing but on an app.

rafaelm2• 12 years ago

This is great! Every time the world cup, eurocup, american cup comes around, me and my friends start a "quiniela" as this friendly betting game is called here (and elsewhere in the spanish speaking regions). I always think about coding something like this but never get around to it. We end up using a hacked up Excel spreadsheet.

One suggestion: make it so that each league can modify their rules. The one I'm currently playing gives 1 point for getting the goals of team A, 1 for getting team B, 1 for guessing the winner or a tie and an additional point for getting the exact score. Don't know why but we've always played it that way, and I know there are other quinielas around that have their own rules.

I love that I don't even need to sign up. Great work! I would like to see how you made it (when you get the chance to make a write-up).

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Glad you like it ! Yes being able to chose a set of rules for each league would be a good idea ! I'll try implement it soon .

If this is popular in the Spanish speaking world, I should try to translate it in Spanish. In case you are up to do it, that would be great ! my email is tistbajean AT gmail DOT com !(there is one file with every sentence in the site, I would say around 10-15min of work)

rafaelm2• 12 years ago

Sure I would be glad to! Sending you an email right now.

I am actually just starting a translation service for web sites, apps, documents and basically anything that can be translated. Thanks for letting me shamelessly promote my services haha!

lazyant2• 12 years ago

what's the numbers on the average predictions mean (they are all 1.x)? also you've forgotten to translate some countries from French (Cameroun, Chil)

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Well it means that on average people thought that this team would score 1.x goals during this game.

I was also surprised by the small differences between teams.

lazyant2• 12 years ago

Funny not enough people want to predict more goals, WC recent average I think is around 2.5.

ngm7• 12 years ago

Brilliant! Loved the minimal interface. Awaiting graphs.

Would it be possible to provide a search bar to search for leagues on the homepage ?

"Keeping URLs safe" seems to be too geeky. I personally don't mind but my friends who join my league won't be so tech oriented.

EDIT: Also, you ask for the league name while creating it. might as well make it convenient for users to use that name. Separately, the URLs for the leagues could be simplified to contain the name instead of numbers.

jbogp11• 12 years ago

You're right. There's no real privacy to protect with the urls... I'll change it even for private leagues.

For the users however the "safe" url is useful otherwise people could guess other people's url and change their predictions!

Smirnoff2• 12 years ago

Hey. Nice job on the app.

I have a BIG concern:

Why don't you input our teams into the Round of 16???? Why wait until you have the REAL results to input them?

People who didn't predict the winners (those teams which will get into the round of 16) should be penalized for not getting the teams right!!!! So why let people make predictions on Round of 16 if they didn't even get the teams right!?

jbogp11• 12 years ago

Yes... I though about this ! But I though that was more fair ! I mean if you get everything wrong before the round of 16, then you have no chance at all to get back in the game !

Here, at least you can still save face for the final rounds, it will keep people who performed poorly at the group stage interested in the challenge I think, no?

Smirnoff2• 12 years ago

No, your way is unfair.

According to the current rules, the following scenario is possible:

A guy who guesses the "Round of 16" teams correctly might have the same amount of points (or even lower) than a guy who didn't get a single "Round of 16" team correctly (just because he/she got the scores right often).

So now, you are letting the guy who didn't get a single team right get even more points and surpassing someone who got the winners correctly (but unfortunately didn't get the scores right).

Basically, people who don't get the teams right should be weeded out. That's only fair.

Also, if you want to let someone make a comeback, you might want to consider giving different points for different levels.

Start from the top: Getting the champion right (16 points) Second place (8 points) Semifinalists (4 points)

This is just an idea. Please research how other websites do it but right now the award system is lacking.

sachinag• 12 years ago

This is pretty much what every pool on the internet does. Why be different?

ardavanmet• 12 years ago

It's nice to have fun sport apps!! I'm a soccer (football) fanatic myself. Using meteor and "Discover Meteor" I built a fun app to have between friends:

Same concept as Hacker News but with GOOOAALLS instead of news. POST GOALS from your favorite players and vote for the best of them.

I cannot say that the site is ready for production environment but any feedback is appreciated: --===== www.goalgoalgoal.co ====--

ALLEZ LES BLEUS :)

jeena• 12 years ago

Is it open source? I would love to write a better CSS (and HTML) for it but I can't find the code.

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