Show HN: Hoodie App is Men's Clothing in Two Taps

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hoodie-mens-clothing-in-two/id822613531?mt=8

by pkrein • 12 years ago

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tyrelb• 12 years ago

can we Show HN the actual web site vs. an app?

http://gethoodie.com/ - offline

pkrein3• 12 years ago

woop, fixed thanks.

JoshGlazebrook2• 12 years ago

I have a hard time believing there is a large group of people that are this lazy as well as careless with money that they would use this for their clothing.

All purchases are final, absolutely no returns will be accepted. We're both too lazy to deal with that.

To me, that just sounds like you don't even care about the customer. But that could just be me as I actually do care about being happy with something I've bought with my own money.

I just don't see this as something that will take off. Especially as men are becoming more fashion aware.

pkrein3• 12 years ago

That's a good point on the copy there -- a joke that fell flat ;) I've edited it in the next release, but no returns for the time being.

objclxt2• 12 years ago

I hope the FTC doesn't come knocking, because I'm pretty sure it's illegal to not accept returns in the case of defective merchandise. I suppose you don't technically need to accept returns, you just need to refund buyers who receive something that's defective...either way, it seems like something you should have a policy on.

coderdude• 12 years ago

Return policies like that are more typical of lingerie sites for obvious reasons. If I had to guess, the real reason for that return policy is they don't want to worry about people returning things they wore for a night out and decided afterwards that they want their money back. Maybe they'll put some kind of highly-visible tag on the clothes and if the tag is removed then they won't let you return the items. Seems reasonable to me (a `no tag, no refund` policy).

objclxt2• 12 years ago

I know here in the US many brick-and-mortar stores have a 'no tag, no return' policy - although I'm not sure it's rigorously enforced, it's more there to stop obviously worn garments from being returned (I just returned a pair of jeans to Uniqlo that I'd taken the tags off, despite the fact the receipt did say no tag, no refund).

viraptor2• 12 years ago

Especially as men are becoming more fashion aware.

That's a fairly broad generalisation about men. Different people care about different things. Some are happy to wear anything comfortable, some care about the choice.

There may be a big enough niche for people who really don't care about clothes as long as they aren't bad. I would happily do that for food for example... I know many people care deeply about food and like to cook, but if someone let me just exclude food I hate and shipped a randomised meal every day at a reasonable price, I'd be a happy customer.

toomuchtodo• 12 years ago

I know many people care deeply about food and like to cook, but if someone let me just exclude food I hate and shipped a randomised meal every day at a reasonable price, I'd be a happy customer.

https://campaign.soylent.me/soylent-free-your-body

Yes, I know, not exactly randomized meals. Baby steps.

tylerlh• 12 years ago

Check out Gobble. I think they're just in Mountain View at the moment, but I could be wrong.

Patricia_Wright• 12 years ago

I'm pretty sure there are state laws whereby you must allow some refunds (defective item, etc).

lostlogin• 12 years ago

Hit the link from this on my phone. It sends me to the App Store but never loads (I'm in NZ - I suspect I can't get the app). Double tap back to the HN app and it loads and instantly redirects back to the non-loading App Store. Had to force quit the HN app to get out of the nasty loop.

leobelle• 12 years ago

Pretty interesting idea, good luck! Customer service and returns are pretty important though.

elliott34• 12 years ago

Wait so you can't buy hoodies? Uninstalled.

razvanr2• 12 years ago

Hi from https://www.twotap.com :) You can enable this for 100+ retailers -- https://twotap.com/supported-stores -- with full return support too.

carbocation• 12 years ago

Will you be enforcing your trademark?

razvanr2• 12 years ago

Minimally (i.e. small logo).

avalaunch2• 12 years ago

Those prices are about 3x what I would normally pay for basic, casual clothing. I'm from Cincinnati though, so perhaps everything is a lot more expensive elsewhere, or maybe I'm just really cheap.

I don't like shopping much, but if I'm not being picky, it doesn't take very long to get in and out of a store, so even disregarding the price, this isn't that appealing to me. It might be more appealing if the app promised to make me look good without the effort of shopping. Just because I'm feeling lazy doesn't mean I want the person picking out my clothing to be lazy too. Keep the simplicity of the app, but go the extra mile for me. Take my sizes, but also get my age, a few snapshots, my general taste in clothing, and then really tailor your picks to me. That's something I might pay a premium for.

cocoflunchy• 12 years ago

Maybe try Bombfell? http://www.bombfell.com/

It's too expensive for me, but they do what you describe.

avalaunch2• 12 years ago

That looks almost exactly like what I was describing. Thanks for pointing it out.

I would probably be willing to try it except for the fact that it's subscription based. If I forget to cancel my subscription after the first month (which I will) I will either end up with more clothing than I want or the hassle of having to return the clothing.

jasonlotito2• 12 years ago

So...

* No way to edit sizes

* No way to go back

* Login doesn't save credentials.

* No hoodie

* No sizes for shirts

So, basically, an app built in a weekend. Grats on that, but you really need to put more work into it. It's still fairly raw, and the lack of quality pretty much doesn't instill much trust in paying for things that are fairly high in price for something I "hate" to shop for.

pkrein3• 12 years ago

Indeed, it's an early version, and really appreciate your feedback on what you'd like to see. Thanks!

jasonlotito2• 12 years ago

I like the idea. I just think it needs work. As such I've left the app installed. :)

jamiequint4• 12 years ago

This seems like something that will only work for someone who views clothing as 100% utilitarian and does not care about how they look. The sizing, fit, and style aspects are really hard to do right for clothing where people care about their style and other players seem to have shipping basics on-demand nailed down. (e.g. MeUndies, ManPacks - although none seem to have a mobile app so maybe you can just compete on user acq. in that channel)

1. I don't know of any brand of jeans that sells for $40-80 that fits well and looks good. (I'd say Flint & Tinder is the closest and they come in at $105)

2. How do you size tees, tee sizing varies widely across brands? How does jean sizing work, are the jeans bootcut, straight leg, slim straight? (you also have 35's as a waist size which basically nobody but Bonobos produces)

3. Are you matching the shoes to my style somehow (or the other clothes you are sending) or are they just some random pair of shoes?

4. How are undershirts and t-shirts different?

5. Are you shipping me sneakers or shoes? If shoes are they oxfords? desert boots? something else? If anything but sneakers are you shipping dress socks to go with them or are you still shipping athletic socks?

evan_• 12 years ago

1. I don't know of any brand of jeans that sells for $40-80 that fits well and looks good. (I'd say Flint & Tinder is the closest and they come in at $105)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is not for you.

sizzle2• 12 years ago

Levi's 501 STF (shrink to fit), can be had on sale <$50. Very flattering jeans if you break them in correctly and thoroughly enjoy mine.

(coming from a person who used to rock Dior mij 19cm's growing up)

sizzle2• 12 years ago

replied to comment, but yeah this app would appeal to people who will wear anything

kin• 12 years ago

  I don't know of any brand of jeans that sells for $40-80 that fits well and looks good. (I'd say Flint & Tinder is the closest and they come in at $105)

I know HN's not the place for fashion advice but shop at Uniqlo. High quality affordable Japanese denim with free hemming on-site.

jamiequint4• 12 years ago

Uniqlo is awesome. I meant nothing that you can buy at wholesale (where you actually can make margin on the sale) that sells for less than $90.

snogglethorpe• 12 years ago

I've never tried their jeans, but while I rather like Uniqlo, their stuff is generally not high quality. I think the appropriate term is "cheap and cheerful."

I actually buy a lot of stuff there, but for anything I really like, I often buy two or three of it because I know from experience that it will wear out rather quickly (and luckily they're so cheap that buying multiple copies is quite practical).

chriogenix• 12 years ago

20Jeans is also good and has fairly high quality clothes. Most of the Jeans are in the $20-30 range.

argumentum• 12 years ago

1. I don't know of any brand of jeans that sells for $40-80 that fits well and looks good. (I'd say Flint & Tinder is the closest and they come in at $105)

Wow, I don't think I've ever spent more than $50 for jeans. Admittedly, I don't really care how they look as long as they are comfortable.

jamesaguilar• 12 years ago

1. Levi 511s for slender folks qualify.

PhasmaFelis• 12 years ago

I don't know of any brand of jeans that sells for $40-80 that fits well and looks good. (I'd say Flint & Tinder is the closest and they come in at $105)

The vast majority of people wouldn't recognize the different between a $30 and a $500 pair of jeans on the street. They wouldn't even think to wonder, because they have no good reason to care. You are certainly welcome to hold yourself to higher standards--Lord knows I'm picky about things nobody else cares about--but don't assume your standards are objective or universal.

I agree with most of your other complaints, though. My dress sense is pretty lackadaisical, but I know from experience that most manufacturers view things like "inches" as sort of a vague ballpark, not a firm measurement. They're too incompetent to be trusted without a return policy.

jamiequint4• 12 years ago

The vast majority of people wouldn't recognize the different between a $30 and a $500 pair of jeans on the street

I suspect most women could tell you the difference between $30 and $200 jeans easily. Maybe not in passing, but certainly in person. You actually see huge leaps in quality between $50 and $200 in terms of both material and construction quality. Anything significantly above $200 and you're just buying brand though so the differentiation is harder (and less meaningful).

As with most things you wear though $50 jeans that fit beat out $400 jeans that don't any day.

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