GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/#Releases

by boskom • 17 years ago

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mechanical_fish• 17 years ago

Hmm... from the News on the new release:

Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above.

A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support".

And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009:

http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th...

Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from source. That will require a Great Package Hunt in the short term, but once you've got emacs set up you've really got emacs set up. It's not like it changes every weekend.

mahmud• 17 years ago

Aquamacs mate.

travisjeffery2• 17 years ago

If you've actually ever used Emacs before don't use Aquamacs, or else you're going to end up reconfiguring everything all over again because the Aquamacs developers don't seem to like to stick the standards and conventions.

Random things are wonky and way out of place. Like their variation of how buffers and frames work is ridiculous.

Build the Nextstep version, Emacs.app and things will actually work the way they're supposed to without having to reconfigure everything again.

sneakums• 17 years ago

Builds available at http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/

ETA: Information courtesy of the mighty EmacsWiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsForMacOS#toc2

brodie• 17 years ago

Here's a MacPorts Portfile for 23, if you're into that sort of thing: http://paste.lisp.org/+1T5E

rbanffy• 17 years ago

Isn't Carbon kind of OS9 legacy support? Does it makes sense to still have a Carbon port? Why?

nileshk2• 17 years ago

To compile your own Emacs 23 (Cocoa) for OS X:

./configure --with-ns && make install

"Emacs.app" will be in the "nextstep" folder

As for switching from the Carbon version to this version, I'm not sure what kind of changes your configuration will be need. I know that Option is Meta in this version whereas in Carbon Cmd is Meta.

jmhodges• 17 years ago

If you've got MacPorts installed (if you don't, you should), grab a copy of my ports repo from github and use the emacs-app Portfile there.

http://github.com/jmhodges/ports/tree/master

troels• 17 years ago

So. How well does Emacs work on a Mac these days? I'm strongly considering switching from Linux to Mac, because I'm sick of running Windows in VMWare just so I can use Microsoft's Office suite. I couldn't live without Emacs though.

__david__• 17 years ago

I use it every day and it works fine for me. Since Mac OS X has unix underpinnings all the good stuff works just fine (unlike trying to use M-x grep on windows). If you compile ispell and put it in your path then all the spelling stuff works, etc.

I had to do very few Mac specific things in my .emacs to make it comfortable.

And on top of that it supports basic mac interaction, so if you drag a file into the window it'll open it in a new buffer, you can associate files with it so that double clicking them works, etc.

jimm• 17 years ago

How to get the command key back as the meta key on Mac OS X: (setq ns-command-modifier 'meta)

dilap• 17 years ago

But how, how, how to get it back in the terminal emacs? :)

pivo• 17 years ago

I use (setf mac-option-modifier 'meta) and then swap Option and Command keys in keyboard preferences, and that makes meta work correctly with windowed Carbon Emacs and terminal mode emacs (both Carbon and the default OSX emacs).

I also use DoubleKey to map the Enter key (right next to Command key on the right) to Ctrl. It bugs me to have to do all this, but it makes meta work just like it does on Linux, so it's worth it.

capablanca• 17 years ago

Scrolling (redisplay?) slow for anyone else? When using a small font (ProggyTiny) it gets really slow.

jsonscripter• 17 years ago

It is for me. I think it has something to do with the baud rate of the virtual terminal...?

thunk• 17 years ago

Don't miss the badass cover to the original Emacs Manual for ITS:

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/its-cover.png

Or rms's only cartoon (It's ... funny?):

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/self-doc-extensible-editor...

access_denied• 17 years ago

Not funny me thinks, but much better, in a modern art sense interesting, very clean concept. He should do 20 of them and see what evolves out of that.

And thanks for the cover!

shafiahmedbd• 17 years ago

Very cool.

thenduks2• 17 years ago

I'd love to finally use emacs 24/7 (rather than randomly jumping between (ubuntu) gedit, gvim, vim, emacs and (osx) textmate) but arg I still can't figure out how to force emacs to: Never insert a tab character, ever. When I press tab, just always insert the freaking spaces instead of apparently not believing me that I want to indent there.

Honestly, am I missing something? I don't leave trailing whitespace in files because, well, it's our convention and I think it's pointless anyway. So I go into a function to add some code in the middle and it's impossible to get indented the right amount without hitting space 12 times since pressing tab just does nothing. I know I could go onto a previous line and hit C-e C-j to line break + indent but do you know how often I just try to insert code in the middle and realize it doesn't work? Google has not been my friend on this issue.

/rant

flambard• 17 years ago

Is this what you are asking for? http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Jus...

thenduks2• 17 years ago

Unfortunately, no. Go to a blank line inside a code block that's indented a bit and hit tab. Nothing happens :/

I wasn't clear above, I have been able to have it never insert a tab, but it's that and the "don't try to 'intelligently' prevent me from indenting" thing that I need.

GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

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