NudgePad: an IDE in Your Browser

https://angel.co/nudgepad

by camurban • 13 years ago

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lightningstorm• 13 years ago

"Nudge uses Space, a new lightweight object-oriented programming language"

Is this a joke? Space seems to be just a lightweight JSON replacement http://spaceful.org/

carbocation• 13 years ago

I don't get it, either. I guess it's supposed to be Space:JSON::CoffeeScript:Javascript? But it seems less useful: in their example, the user clearly wanted to create an array of colors. What they got instead was a map with colors as keys and empty objects as values.

breck7• 13 years ago

Sorry, that was an old example. Will throw a better one up there shortly.

breck7• 13 years ago

Edited. Should have said "encoding language".

Here are some examples of space in action:

- http://sender.nudgepad.com/demo.html

- http://nudgepress.com/

It is very useful. Happy to answer questions about it.

vidarh• 13 years ago

What does this give you over e.g. YAML, which has widespread support?

Not that I like YAML either - I detest encodings that depend on indentation for meaning...

paragraft• 13 years ago

Its list handling seems broken? tojson(fromjson(x)) !== x.

Paste { "name": "John", "age": "29", "foo": [1,2,3] } into the JSON side, and click in the left and move the cursor to force it to update and see what happens (I see it drop the first two list items).

anonymoushn2• 13 years ago

Is there a spec or a grammar somewhere?

Edit: here we go https://github.com/nudgepad/space/blob/master/spec.txt

spaux• 13 years ago

Why would you use this over JSON? Looks like if your application makes heavy use of arrays, space will take way more 'space' than JSON.

eg: {"test":[1,2,3]} vs test\n item 1\n item 2\n item 3\n

ericingram• 13 years ago

I've been watching nudge evolve for a while and must say I'm really impressed by the overall design, performance and ease of use. There are plenty of tools for rapid prototyping these days, but nudge just gets out of your way and exposes an incredible time-to-value proposition. Considering the approach to modular add-ons, I can envision this simple tool turning into a powerhouse in the near future.

TL;DR: spend at least 15 minutes playing with it and imagine the possibilities

camurban• 13 years ago

Thanks!

fishtoaster• 13 years ago

This seems objectively neat, but I'm curious what the target use-case is. I would image most web developers want more powerful tools (a real console, their editor of choice, their commandline tools, etc). And it has too much power for non-technical users to break stuff.

Maybe it's a tool for neophyte devs, somewhere between random-free-hosting.biz and using aws?

Who is this aimed at?

breck7• 13 years ago

Target user at the moment is entry level devs on up who want to start developing in seconds.

Medium term the target is small multirole teams (developer, designer, copywriter), who want to work more collaboratively using specific tools for the types of things each is most qualified to edit (code/schemas, mockups/styles/images, copy).

largehotcoffee• 13 years ago

This seems like a cheap attempt to get people to look at their angellist page.

jalan• 13 years ago

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Edmond• 13 years ago

For downloadable browser IDE check us out (www.crudzilla.com), plus you can use a bunch of languages and the whole setup is ready to deploy.

fotbr• 13 years ago

"Sorry, we are currently experiencing heavy load. Please check back later."

Thanks, but I prefer my IDE to be available anytime I want it. Even if this IDE-in-a-browser isn't tied to their website, it doesn't inspire confidence that they can't handle a surge in web traffic.

breck7• 13 years ago

Sorry about that, we temporarily turned off new sites on the main server so our current users on that server have uninterrupted access to their sites. Most production sites are not running on nudgepad.com, but on other servers running NP. NudgePad.com is more of a demonstration server. We haven't tested it with more than 10,000 projects on a single machine and didn't expect this big a response tonight. It will be very easy to scale--just need to shard new projects across servers--just haven't gotten to that yet.

Happy to send a direct link to anyone who wants to try it--breck@nudgepad.com.

LukeWalsh• 13 years ago

I think this is very cool. This could really lower the bar for entry level developers who don't want to deal with running a web server. It reminds me of github pages, but even further along.

oakaz• 13 years ago

Cool but it's really silly to claim that no existing projects make it easier to develop apps. There are Koding, Cloud9 for years

NudgePad: an IDE in Your Browser

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