Crytek: Graphics Are “60% Of The Game”

http://www.x360magazine.com/general/crytek-graphics-are-60-of-the-game/

by danso • 13 years ago

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Semaphor• 13 years ago

Good thing there are still developers seeing things differently. I'll take story and mechanics over graphics every day.

colmvp• 13 years ago

Good thing it's not a zero sum game. I'll take graphics/story/mechanics anyday. And graphics don't necessarily need to be intensive, it could be chalked up to creative art direction, like Heroes of Might and Magic 3 or Team Fortress 2.

angersock2• 13 years ago

"Good thing it's not a zero sum game."

Unfortunately, costs for creating content of high graphical fidelity and for reworking it and whatnot very much mean that it is not a zero sum game.

You cannot take story and mechanical risks if you spend millions and millions on the engine licensing, art talent, and man hours required to perfectly render every shade of grass.

This is, incidentally, what is driving the AAA bubble and the slow implosion of studios we see today.

stcredzero• 13 years ago

Seems like sound design is nearly half of the game. Art direction is another big chunk. Playability is another big chunk. How technically advanced the graphics are fits into the remainder.

andybak• 13 years ago

First thought: "Necessary but not sufficient"

Second thought: "Minecraft rather undermines the 'necessary' part."

Flippancy aside - there is a place for incredible graphics and I'd be the last person to want progress to halt in that direction but many games wade through the uncanny valley and the immersiveness(?) suffers. Others refuse to even play that game and seem no poorer because of it.

I rate Doom (original), Journey on the PS3 and of course Minecraft as amongst the most captivating gaming experiences I've had. Food for thought.

JamesMcMinn• 13 years ago

Don't mistake the graphics part of what he said as simply referring how realistic the graphics are.

Minecraft is the perfect example of the game where the graphics are integral to how the game plays. The blocky style of Minecraft is part of what makes it so great and fun to play.

TillE• 13 years ago

Minecraft really should have been the end of anyone saying that graphics are more important than gameplay.

It's the definitive example of how you can make a game with graphics that are not only simple, but often quite ugly, and still capture a huge and diverse portion of the market with engaging gameplay.

Honestly, AAA games are getting more boring every year. It's all graphics and story, with no appreciation of the unique power of games (like Minecraft or Dwarf Fortress) to give players the tools to make their own stories.

adventured2• 13 years ago

No, Minecraft has graphics, and a very specific style of graphics, without which it would have failed miserably.

Minecraft's graphics were critical.

The simplistic graphic style was required to grab basic gamers by literally assisting the gameplay. The '8 bit' looking block building style makes it dead simple for almost anybody to play the game and build things. The graphics in Minecraft are like having a guide rail.

vacri2• 13 years ago

Minecraft doesn't really undermine it. Minecraft's inspiration was Dwarf Fortress, which is an ANSI game. Minecraft's most significant contribution which made the game feasible was the addition of graphics. All the non-graphic 'cool elements' of Minecraft are found in abundance in Dwarf Fortress, (and then some (and then some)). Graphics made that style of game accessible to the masses.

eurleif• 13 years ago

Some graphics are necessary. Pretty graphics are not.

lutze• 13 years ago

I thought Minecraft's inspiration was Infiniminer?

coldtea3• 13 years ago

>First thought: "Necessary but not sufficient" Second thought: "Minecraft rather undermines the 'necessary' part."

Minecraft? What about all the text adventure games? Some where massive hits well after we have widespread color graphical games... Even as far as early nineties. (And people enjoy them even now, but I digress).

psykotic• 13 years ago

In any recent Crytek game, they're 100% of the game.

angersock2• 13 years ago

The AI and physics in Far Cry (the first one) were actually pretty legit.

Ogre• 13 years ago

To claim that graphics don't matter to games would be like claiming cinematography doesn't matter to movies. On the other hand, making a generalization that graphics are "60%" of all games would be just as silly as making a percentage claim for movies.

That 60% of Crytek's development resources are spent on graphics seems plausible, and it's working for them. But that's just their games. FTL, Binding of Isaac, Minecraft, or lots of other smaller games are almost certainly not spending 60% of their time on graphics, and most of what they do spend is more likely art direction than technology (The quote in the article did include art direction in "graphics"). That works for them too. "The Game" is a very broad term if you take that statement at face value. We should take it as a statement only about Crytek's games.

barbs• 13 years ago

Agree, it totally depends on the game. For Crysis, I might argue that it's more than 60%. Crysis has been used as a benchmark for the performance of gaming rigs for ages...

coldtea3• 13 years ago

>To claim that graphics don't matter to games would be like claiming cinematography doesn't matter to movies.

Cinematography (camera work) is not graphics though. It's as essential to cinema as the plot and acting is.

Graphics in relation to games not so much. You can make a great game with very simple graphics, even today (from Tetris and Pacman to Leterpress). You can even make a great game with no graphics at all (all the much loved text adventure games, MUDs, etc) -- whereas you cannot make a movie at all without any cinematography.

If you want to make a movie comparison, visual effects and/or fancy sets would be a better one.

jpxxx• 13 years ago

Tetris requires a properly sized view and clear, effortlessly distinguishable artwork.

MUDs require a quality typeface, proper layout, and appropriate coloring.

Pacman would be nothing without its remarkable low-fi charm.

Letterpress wouldn't have gathered a moment's attention if the tiles weren't immaculate and well rendered.

Graphical quality matters in everything, everything, everything visual. And it's a reasonably reliable proxy for how much effort has been put into the rest of the game.

rm999• 13 years ago

>Graphics in relation to games not so much. You can make a great game with very simple graphics

Absolutist claims about how important graphics are can never be true because different genres utilize graphics differently. The immersive games crytek makes weren't really possible before computer graphics technology was capable, so I would argue that no: making crytek's games with very simple graphics would not even be possible.

Keyframe• 13 years ago

Cinematography is lighting and, to an extent, camera work! IMO movie comparison would be with production design. After all, it's the script that must work - everything else is a bonus. Same goes with games, if mechanics is there...

InclinedPlane• 13 years ago

I think the analogy is quite apt. Even more apt if you include visual fx.

A lot of the most popular movies rely heavily on lush cinematography and advanced computer generated visual effects. Just as many of the most popular games rely on advanced graphics. However, not all do. For every Minecraft or FTL there's a Clerks or Blair Witch or Primer.

beefsack• 13 years ago

I think you are right, but it feels like a matter of definitions. A movie without cinematography is essentially a novel (not exactly the same, screenplays differ from novels), and they both fall under the "story" umbrella.

I feel that "game" is most closely related to "story", and what Crytek are talking about are "visual games", where there are also things like "text based games".

lfuller• 13 years ago

In my opinion, far too much time is wasted these days discussing which elements of game design are most "important".

For Crysis, the graphics are absolutely the focus. For a game like Minecraft, graphics take a backseat to the innovative game mechanics. For Team Fortress 2, game mechanics and graphics both take a backseat to unique team-based multiplayer.

Games are a type of art, and art can take many forms. Are Michelangelo's sculptures "worse" than Picaso's masterpieces simply because they are far more life-like? Are modern movies worse than early 1900s films simply because they use high end special effects?

Take a step back and judge a game by its own merits - any individual element of a game's design is dependant on it's genre, art direction, platform, and specific goals. The question should not be "are graphics the most important part of video games?", but rather "are graphics the most important part of THIS game?".

sultezdukes• 13 years ago

Yeah, Crytek makes it a point of pimping their engines quite a bit. The problem is that they're not comparing their engine to Minecraft, but to Unreal 4, Frostbite 3, Id Tech whatever, etc..

Is someone going to choose to play Crysis 3 because the graphics are a bit better than say the Frostbite 2 engine in Battlefield 3, or whatever Call of Duty is using? I don't think so.

I do applaud Crytek for being pretty developer friendly with their Crytek SDK, but maybe they should look at how Dayz really helped out Bohemia and release a game SDK too.

I'm not sure what engine Far Cry 3 is using, but I'm sure some developers could create some real interesting mods with an SDK.

corin_• 13 years ago

People do chose to play Crysis 3 over other AAA titles because of its graphics. That's literally the most-used reason for buying it.

ZaneA• 13 years ago

In my opinion animation is more important than just "graphics". In my experience a well motion-capped game is easily more enjoyable and immersive than a traditionally animated one. Of course this doesn't apply everywhere, but I think fluid life-like animation goes a long way regardless of the graphics that package it.

thecrumb• 13 years ago

They've obviously never played Zork.

adventured2• 13 years ago

Depends on what you mean by graphics and what the game in question is.

If you mean the graphics appropriate to the game in question, then sure (whether the 60% was just a silly rounding above half because Yerli is graphics biased, who knows).

Minecraft has graphics, and they added substantially to the aesthetic style of the game, helping to make it stand out. It obviously doesn't have Crysis level graphics however, and would have failed if that had been attempted.

Tetris, as a classic example, doesn't need high powered graphics, but its style of graphics are still a substantial part the game, as necessary for the basic gameplay.

liquidise• 13 years ago

Pretty sensationalist title here. The quote literally says graphics + physics engine + sound design + assets + production values + art direction = 60%.

Given the reality of the statement, it seems very acceptable. Graphics are only a small piece of the puzzle. Adding in realistic physics and immersive sound scores add a ton to a game. Leaving that out in the title is pretty weak journalism imho.

ascendantlogic• 13 years ago

The "percent" of X that makes up a game is purely in the eye of the beholder. For some people graphics has a huge part in their like or dislike of a game. Conversely there are plenty of games that go out of their way to have retro graphics specifically to evoke a certain nostalgia or just to shift the focus to the story and the gameplay.

chipsy• 13 years ago

As it happens I wrote something that addresses this type of statement, just today.

http://spacecreeps.com/essays/when_a_game_means_something/in...

tuxidomasx• 13 years ago

"And immersion is effectively the number one thing we can use to help you buy into the world."

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. However, the devil is in the details. There are a plethora of ways to ruin immersion in video games, and the list is different for each player.

One of my personal immersion breakers is the appearance of the characters. As someone with brown skin, it gets hard to immerse myself in a game where the main acting character looks and sounds so different than I would imagine them myself. And in the rare event that a game has a minority main character, it's common for them to be laden with negative stereotypes.

The reason I can become immersed in a _book_ has a great deal to do with the freedom to envision characters a certain way. For _games_, this counts even more because we are often asked assume control of a character's actions, but have little control over much else.

For the majority of male players, this might not be an issue. But for females and minorities, this is so common that we really have to do some mental jujitsu just to get past it to the point of true immersion.

I think this phenomenon also explains why basketball and football games have a much higher amount of minority gamers than, say, adventure games and RPGs.

This isn't just an issue in video games-- Hollywood mirrors this to a degree. It's why a movie with all black characters (or a black lead) routinely draws large black audiences, often regardless of the quality of the movie.

One of the things I liked most about playing Crysis 3 was being able to identify with the main character more-so than in most FPS games.

Sometimes people want to be able to see themselves in the heroes, the side-kicks, the minions, and even the villains.

shmerl• 13 years ago

Graphics Are “60% Of The Game”

It pretty much depends on the genre. For some hack-n-slash or RTS that may be true, but let's say for a good RPG - the depth of the story outweighs the graphics factor.

richforrester• 13 years ago

Depends on how you define "graphics".

To me, graphics constitutes aesthetics, and usability. Good art direction combined with great user interface = 60% of a good game.

If in this article, they're talking about as many pixels, particles and polygons as possible, it's a bit of a rough statement; it might be true for their games, but not for all games.

nyar2• 13 years ago

Gameplay is 100%

A game without gameplay is a 3d demo.

vinkelhake• 13 years ago

What's a game with 100% gameplay? A design doc? These percentages are silly.

nyar2• 13 years ago

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Crytek: Graphics Are “60% Of The Game”

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