The Rules Apply To Everyone

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/13/the-rules-apply-to-everyone/

by vaksel • 17 years ago

43 31 17 years ago

kyro2• 17 years ago

I was waiting for him to address the last.fm post about them handing user information over to the RIAA. He really should've taken it a step further beyond merely disclosing your sources, to validating them as well. I feel this was kind of a vague shot at addressing the last.fm debacle. I do think it's noble of him to pull out of companies for the sake of TC's credibility, but there are other changes that should be made as well.

Radix2• 17 years ago

It sounds like he was putting his money where his mouth was, but now can't? Which is better, more useful, a blogger that understands and takes part in an industry, or one that strictly comments?

jwilliams• 17 years ago

Yeah - It seems like a move to satisfy people that clearly won't be satisfied?

I mean, the rules to apply to everyone indeed - I think it's unreasonable to expect someone who is effectively an industry insider to not have conflicts of interest (conversely, it's reasonable to expect transparency about it).

kyro2• 17 years ago

Would it be better for an investigative journalist who specializes in the oil industry to partake in the oil industry, or strictly comment? Would it be better for, say, an individual reporting to congress on a certain industry, healthcare and such, to take part in that industry, or strictly comment?

Seeing as TC is his biggest investment, and the main purpose of the blog is to deliver unbiased, somewhat investigative, pieces on the startup sector, it'd probably be in his best interest to pull out of companies that might bring about future accusations of Michael and TC being biased.

I guess you really can't please everyone.

Radix2• 17 years ago

As long as it is mild and transparent I don't mind it. I don't know about the oil industry, but I do know if there is a group reporting to congress on Healthcare I would prefer it to be primary care doctors and hospitalists. I definately want the right people to speak and have a stake in the industry.

Here is a Q&A with someone who has a stake which I begrudge with some commentary from some doctors, read the comments. http://histalk2.com/2009/02/05/histalk-interviews-glen-tullm...

LadyGreen sounds like a shill.

byrneseyeview2• 17 years ago

The two most insightful essays I've read on oil came from a hedge fund that had a giant long position, and a commodity trader with a giant short position. You can fund a lot of research, and a lot of farting around with facts and figures, if you have billions of dollars riding on the outcome.

vaksel2• 17 years ago

Its not like his "money where his mouth is" approach worked. Look at the companies he invested in...they are very mediocre. A few social sites(one for dogs/one for dancing), a video site(seesmic), and an internet storage site. Nothing truly spectacular or ground breaking. Nothing that had any major success. I don't think he is yet to have an exit....I don't count edgio because that was a joke exit.

The only thing in his portfolio that was successful is Techcrunch

chris11• 17 years ago

If that is true, that might be why he is divesting. I really don't think his investments are unethical, as long as they are always disclosed.

But his investments might slightly affect his objectivity, and get his credibility attacked. And since they are not success, there is no reason he should keep them.

jibiki• 17 years ago

I think you hit the nail on the head. This is a good move because TC seems to be his bread and butter.

tptacek4• 17 years ago

That depends on whether you think bloggers are, in the long term, journalists. It's fine if you don't think they are, but then you'd better pay up your newspaper subscription.

physcab2• 17 years ago

It's good to see someone take such a hard stance on integrity. Unfortunately we live in world filled with dishonesty and are constantly witnessing the implosions of such individuals/companies.

MA didn't have to do what he did. It's also true that he takes a great deal of criticism for what he says and how he says it. But I have much respect for someone who blows the whistle publicly.

time_management2• 17 years ago

I'm glad that Michael Arrington is a firm believer in fair play and egalitarianism:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/02/back-i-am/

When my time was up to leave, I asked Potts if I could stay another week. He said something about being fully booked, but I offered to pay more than his usual rate and said I’d plug Surfboard House on TechCrunch (consider that a disclosure). He had (and still has) no idea what TechCrunch is, but the dollars did the trick. Schedules were juggled, I stayed.

physcab2• 17 years ago

haha wow. I feel like that just nullifies my comment below (well, maybe just part of it).

time_management2• 17 years ago

He just made it too fuckin' easy. What, two weeks between those two posts?

kaiserama2• 17 years ago

"...as more and more ads are placed on our site"

Maybe I'm jaded into believing there really is no such thing as "objective reporting" anymore, seems everyone has a conflict of interest or 3 these days.

mrkurt• 17 years ago

The good publications work very hard to firewall content production and ad sales. Having watched this process in a few "good publications", I think it can work pretty well.

kaiserama2• 17 years ago

I agree with your statement in principle, the problem arises when there may be warranted negative publicity involving one of their paid advertisers. Obviously as a business owner you don't want to jeopardize your source of income, but as a "journalist" are you really staying true to mission to be objective? And thus...a conflict of interest is born.

Cheers!

ryanwaggoner• 17 years ago

Though I understand the motivation, it's sad to see another angel closing up shop, especially now. We need all of them we can get.

numair• 17 years ago

This is so utterly irrelevant. Once again, with an ominous title and tons of upvotes, I am baited into checking out what turns out to be nothing more than a pundit war. Thanks, guys!

tptacek4• 17 years ago

Strong disagree. I'm not entirely sure why people care what Dave Winer thinks, but Arrington wields a lot of influence, and everyone who plays ball with him increases TechCrunch's importance.

jacoblyles• 17 years ago

It's possible that the punchline is at the end, but I don't follow Arrington enough to know how important this is:

"Back to transparency, one change I’m going to make at TechCrunch is to get rid of all of our investment conflicts. I’ve long been an angel investor and have continued to make a very few investments even after starting TechCrunch. These investments are always disclosed and in my opinion we do more than enough to maintain transparency there. But it’s also a weak point that competitors and disgruntled entrepreneurs use to attack our credibility. So over the next few months I’m going to divest myself of all of those investments in an orderly fashion, and I’ll update readers on the progress. I’ll also discontinue making any further investments."

vinutheraj• 17 years ago

people who obtain power can convince themselves that the very rules they create and enforce don’t apply to them.

Hehe that is so ironic coming from Arrington !!

tptacek4• 17 years ago

There are sins of commission and sins of omission; for instance, TC doesn't seem to have done any reporting on Mahalo's secret botnet herder admin (a major story in every other news outlet), and on the flip side hasn't corrected egregriously unfounded rumors about Last.fm.

A pox on all their houses.

Tichy• 17 years ago

What secret botnet herder admin? Did it make it to HN?

tptacek4• 17 years ago

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=504597

wumi• 17 years ago

the problem with the spitzer example is that Spitzer KNEW he was going to get caught ... some might see Spitzers actions as an "escape" for a man who wanted out, and had no way out from the track of success, except a moral failure.

c'mon now, he was the attorney general, do you seriously think he didn't know he was going to get caught?

JabavuAdams• 17 years ago

Your customers don't know who Mike Arrington is, and they don't care whether he likes you, whether he hates you, whether you like him, or whether you hate him.

Incest, much? Work more.

mojonixon• 17 years ago

more work, less circle jerk

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