Keygen.music

by soupspaces • 1 month ago

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sublinear• 1 month ago

Not that I've looked into it much, but a thought just occurred to me. Why don't we use AI to generate lofi samples for tracker music? Why aren't there trackers with that feature bolted on? I should be able to search for bespoke and unique sounds out of thin air.

Surely that should be a very modest goal to achieve?

(re: downvotes... I say "AI" as a synthesis method, not as a way to interfere with the creative process, but I guess I have to resign myself to the fact many downvoters might be ignorant of how these musical sausages are usually made)

devin2• 1 month ago

Could you say more? I don't really follow, and I've used trackers for a long time. Don't some trackers already have something akin to this in terms of "randomizing" wave forms inside some reasonable parameters? Why would you need AI for this problem?

zahlman• 1 month ago

I assume the goal is to be able to prompt with "make me a synth that sounds like ..." and actually get a reasonable result.

4chandaily• 1 month ago

You can't mention "AI" and music together without a negative response. I think entrenched business interests as well as musicians and other music industry adjacent people, plus the well intentioned but poorly informed public have developed a visceral knee jerk reaction to the concept. Some of this is understandable, but I think it is mostly fueled by astroturfing.

I am a musician as well as a technology enthusiast, and I think this a very exciting time!

To respond more directly to your point than your aside, there are a smattering of models out there that can take descriptions of sounds and do a decent job of creating them. (Stable Audio 3 just released last month and can do this, for example). - I don't find them to be useful for sampling, though. I'm still much quicker dialing in a sound with knobs or sliders than a text box.

Diffusion models in music making are not going away, though. This is (at least in part) the future.

For a taste, look at some of the interesting things being done over in the Demon project - https://github.com/daydreamlive/DEMON - to me, this is a much more positive use of the tech than "type words/get song".

tiborsaas• 1 month ago

I really like to prompt music models with random gibberish with some unhinged prompts and expect some other world-y results.

stackghost• 1 month ago

Why don't we use AI to generate lofi samples for tracker music?

Because generating lofi samples is already pretty easy with waveform generators and existing tools. Burning millions of tokens worth of compute just to make a bass kick is profoundly wasteful.

SyneRyder• 1 month ago

An upvote from me, it's a reasonable question.

For your "search for bespoke and unique sounds", that sounds like a service Waves runs, called Illugen. It isn't built in to a tracker, but you can use it to generate the samples that you import into the tracker. Honestly I've never used it, I have too many samples anyway, but here it is: https://www.waves.com/illugen

But you also don't have to go down the generative / diffusion path. You can ask your AI to make a tool to generate various sample files for you mathematically. A good frontier model will happily make a program that will create some hihat and cymbal sounds out of white noise, a kick drum out of distorted sine waves. It will create some simple synth sounds from square waves. If you go deep enough, it will happily go down the rabbit hole with you into additive synthesis while nerding out about the Synclavier. Or it will do synthesis through frequency modulation while chatting about the Yamaha DX7 and don't do that because FM is like modular you'll never find a way out of that hole has anyone seen eno lately.

If you kept reading this far, there's plenty of Claudes already doing their own very simple synthesis & music writing, in videos like these below (two I found today). The models are capable of much much more if you give them time to build a toolset, and aren't just asking them to one shot an entire video about their existence using only a copy of ffmpeg:

https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065207326492020957/video/1

https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065230524264710313/video/1

petercooper2• 1 month ago

Not quite what you suggested, but I did some experiments several months ago "enhancing" the samples in tracker music with some models, and they sounded terrible. There really is something about the sound of tracker files that's just right. But sure, you could generate lo-fi samples, there's a lot of computer generated samples in music, but putting them together into a pleasing combination is the hard bit.

devin2• 1 month ago

I think maybe this is getting hugged to death. I searched for an old favorite of mine: `radix - bright eyes`, and couldn't find it, but maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

soupspaces5• 1 month ago

Try https://keygenmusic.tk earlier posted on HN

bityard• 1 month ago

From the aesthetic, this has probably been vibecoded to hell and back.

(And it looks like the files were all yoinked from https://github.com/6512345/keygenmusic)

Archive.org also has some bundles of keygen music, but you have to sift a bit through the results to find them.

Rockjodd• 1 month ago

Bah, the user interface and design is horrible to navigate in, which just made me sad. Try to paginate, music stops etc. If you created this, spend some more effort in user testing before sharing if you want users to have a good experience. My 2 cents.

f_devd• 1 month ago

Ngl the weird UI bugs made me think it must be made by AI, either that or the developer has very skewed frontend skills where gradients are fancy but sliders & interactions are broken.

somenameforme3• 1 month ago

Yeah, this is LLM like 99%. Still neat, but ffs just go through a few more testing cycles with it before going live.

tearwear2• 1 month ago

100%. Whoever did this UI thing, first, would get rich, if Anthropic et al. had to pay for the use of his border-radius, gradient and paddings

prodigycorp• 1 month ago

Shipping a ui like this is downright disrespectful for users here. it makes zero sense.

dfxm12• 1 month ago

The Dunning-Kruger effect will grow with AI adoption.

kromokromo• 1 month ago

Also a missed opportunity for some of that sweet vanilla html paired with the keygen and crack ansi splash screens

larodi• 1 month ago

it screems vibecoding without the slightest idea what they doing.

chorkpop• 1 month ago

Also why is there no big "Play" button? I have to click a bunch to even hear an example.

soupspaces5• 1 month ago

if you created this

Did not. https://keygenmusic.tk/ was better. Makes me wonder if slop will eventually lead to curation or if the canonical bests will continue to be buried in it.

ralusek• 1 month ago

ORiON Nero 6.6 was my shit. Please give it a spin.

There were definitely many keygens I would open just to have on in the background.

Waterluvian• 1 month ago

Fine, I'll listen to Bear Necessities on loop until the football starts.

Ah there it is: https://keygenmusic.tk/#track=Razor1911/Razor1911%20-%20Comm...

RIMR• 1 month ago

It's so cool to see that some of these groups are still making incredible pieces of digital art as recently as this year!

This Razor1911 career retrospective demo from Revision was pretty impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AnbYNudAyM

vibcdingenjoyer• 1 month ago

I wonder if you can find a way to turn the device volume up to max to simulate the unexpected music blasting out and surprising the hell out of the user.

Brendinooo3• 1 month ago

Based on the site and the comments, this feels like a reference to something I know nothing about!

p2detar• 1 month ago

Have you heard of the https://modarchive.org?

Brendinooo3• 1 month ago

I have not!

soupspaces5• 1 month ago

Had not seen it either! Neat.

echelon_musk2• 1 month ago

This is a nice collection from the ReclusiveLemming YouTube channel [0] . The video description contains download links to the original tracker modules and an MP3 mix.

I used to listen to these modules with Xmp Mod Player [1] from F-Droid on my commute to work with my Nexus 4.

Many of the modules contain "hidden" messages that the Android app made easy to read.

[0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=GH7eUlri4yM

[1] https://f-droid.org/packages/org.helllabs.android.xmp/

aidenn0• 1 month ago

One of the mod files I have contains the postal address for the composer for those who would like to request tracks for their own demos.

echelon_musk2• 1 month ago

Simpler times.

spaldingcactus• 1 month ago

Your keygens had music? Mine only ever had viruses.

petterroea• 1 month ago

Vibecoded website with poor UX. Loving that the website is both trying to be fancy by having a floating player you can drag around with a playlist, while also wiping everything if you click the wrong link. No human made this, or paid it any attention at least.

mock-possum• 1 month ago

No human made this, or paid it any attention at least.

I think we’ve got to get used to seeing those as the same thing. Paying attention to it is making it, in essence, the more attention you pay, the more you own the process, the more the result is ‘yours.’

nialv7• 1 month ago

a floating player you can drag

you can drag only by clicking on a ui element that has no indication that it can be dragged.

soupspaces5• 1 month ago

My favorite is the non-existent link to the GitHub despite the GitHub icon.

modus-tollens• 1 month ago

Love the idea! Spend some time refining and thinking about the UI.

Can you add this song? "Sony Vegas 9.x Keygen Music by Kenet & Rez (Digital Insanity)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmdprbBOMT8

Geekshere• 1 month ago

Horribly coded site but a cool collection of music, only wish I had access to the original collection because I know without a doubt that they just downloaded those mp3s from someone else’s site.

laurentlb2• 1 month ago

Note that there are no mp3 files at all. It's a player for module files (e.g. .mod, .xm, etc.)

If you'd like to download module files, https://modarchive.org is a good reference.

kevin061• 1 month ago

Vibecoded slop with terrible performance.

Use https://chiptune.app.

Preserving the digital underground's musical legacy

Yeah I'm pretty sure the people who made keygens and chiptunes would hate today's AI and LLM. This is a tribute to chiptunes and keygen music as much as putting a picture of your grandma into an AI tool to animate it would be a tribute to her.

petercooper2• 1 month ago

I was coming here to recommend https://chiptune.app/ too - it's great, and super fast to boot.

hackernudes• 1 month ago

Seems to be Missing my favorite - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STiQ8cCIo0 ("Unreal Super Hero 3" by Kenet & Rez)

cdnutter• 1 month ago

I tend to think this song is the magnum opus of keygen music. Always used to be associated with Sony Vegas tools which, when I was younger, was a big deal cracking.

laurentlb2• 1 month ago

You'll find it here: https://chiptune.app/?play=FwwaT5Rc

As mentioned in other comments, chiptune.app seems to be a better project and has been maintained for years (https://github.com/mmontag/chip-player-js).

Also available here: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&qu...

leothetechguy• 1 month ago

the demoscene is about putting in lots of technical effort into programs even if it would be completely unreasonable in any real software project.

This vibe coded mess is putting in so little technical effort even though it is completely unreasonable for any piece of software associated with the demoscene.

wetbaby• 1 month ago

This is the shittest website I have ever seen in my life.

meindnoch• 1 month ago

Jester - Stardust Memories

ChrisArchitect• 1 month ago

<starts browsing the groups section...> "Founded: 2002.... Founded: 2007..."

huh? Preserving groups that 'shaped the scene' would make me think late 80s and early 90s! c'mon now

https://www.scene.org/ is the way to go, no?

..Suppose that's not going to include hacking groups, but still.

wren6991• 1 month ago

A steaming pile of webslop. Thanks Claude.

Music is cool though

system2• 1 month ago

LLM is plaguing the internet as usual. This site is proof of what a non-technical, inexperienced person comes up with with vibe coding.

With Claude Code in less than 5 minutes, I can come up with something 10x better, at least usable, with basic UX knowledge and flow basics.

Sorry if I offended the author, but he/she can learn from these comments.

smusamashah• 1 month ago

This website is horrific on phone. A sane human made website with keygen music has been shared on HN a few times already.

slicktux• 1 month ago

Unable to browse because I’m on mobile but Satellite One by Purple Motion is a track to listen to! <3

zuzululu2• 1 month ago

dont really get the complaints about UI

its irrelevant to enjoying the actual content which is music

sometimes the nitpickery on HN is excessive and not really of value

soupspaces5• 1 month ago

https://xkcd.com/386/ Classic.

Edit: They have a point though. Food for thought.

zuzululu2• 1 month ago

can't open that link shows 404

rafram• 1 month ago

This is a vibe-coded clone of https://keygenmusic.tk/, it seems.

cesarvarela• 1 month ago

Thanks, the UX in the OP is atrocious.

m463• 1 month ago

I wonder if you could feed in all the HN comments as feedback and get a PR

igmn• 1 month ago

Preserving the digital underground's musical legacy

The entire page has clearly been completely AI-generated in one shot and serves no value. I doubt the author even read much of the code before hitting publish - look at the comments in the HTML:

lol.

It struggles to even run on my laptop with the amount of crap Gemini has put into it - 30KB of minified JS and another 30 of the horrible CSS. This is a snot-filled spit in the face of musicians whose TLD is being polluted with this, and whose music this vibecoder stole. The gall to have a copyright sign at the bottom is despicable.

Jtarii• 1 month ago

This is an acutely awful website to look at.

Keygen.music

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