Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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sameersri2004• 2 months ago

Yes, it does from follicular to ovulation...

mike_hock• 2 months ago

Do women keep changing their settings in that Gnome 2 fork over the course of their ovulatory cycle?

Oh, that kind of mate.

bombcar• 2 months ago

I was hoping for chess moves, myself.

warumdarum• 2 months ago

The ovulatory cycle where a peasant becomes a queen.

Hnrobert422• 2 months ago

It's 2026, and I still can't read a PDF on mobile.

I must be doing something wrong. I'm using FF Focus. Is that it? I tried Safari. Either they moved the reader button, or it's not present for PDFs. Help me Obi-Wan.

bestouff• 2 months ago

Under Firefox Focus I can read it if I manually zoom and scroll. Not ideal.

Hnrobert422• 2 months ago

That's exactly what I mean. This is how animals live.

crims0n2• 2 months ago

PDFs are generally meant for printed paper, it's not you - it's the medium.

leoncos• 2 months ago

Many behaviors are determined by hormones. Men are no exception. When calm, men tend to prefer intellectual women, but when they're impulsive after drinking in a bar, they prefer sexy women.

dnnddidiej• 2 months ago

It is OK! Don't forget we are animals first. Obviously we need that neocortex to keep decisions in check!

rusk• 2 months ago

In my experience it’s usually the other way around

crims0n2• 2 months ago

It is a curious thing how drinking affects people in different ways. Some people get reflective, others belligerent.

iberator• 2 months ago

Women with higher testosterone levels prefer more risks.

For example: when women are starting dating and fell in love: their testosterone level go up for 2 months

block_dagger• 2 months ago

Findings of TFA: Yes.

Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.

andyferris• 2 months ago

Can we summarize this as "people get horny sometimes" and "ovulating people get horny"? Or is that too reductive?

acters• 2 months ago

I am guessing they are trying to make a distinction from mental horny vs physical horny

readthenotes12• 2 months ago

It is probably safer. Summarize it as sociology during the replication crisis

usrnm• 2 months ago

Which only supports my belief that with the proliferation of contraception tying sex and long-term partnership together is becoming a useless anachronism

anonym29• 2 months ago

Are you kidding? Sexless long-term partnerships are nothing new; they've been around for ages - that's just called marriage!

Nzen• 2 months ago

I don't know what an ovulatory cycle feels like; but, I trust Lindsay Doe's account [0] of how she feels across a given period.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLXxxHVOeec 11 minutes

Jensson• 2 months ago

It probably feels a bit like before and after ejaculation for a man, just it happens way quicker for men. Pretty sure if you studied that you'd find mens preferences in women changes a lot as well.

zug_zug• 2 months ago

This research is one of the important studies in my own understanding of the world. I think it's the type of thing people are cautious to talk about too much because it might drive a certain type of person crazy and lead them to overcompensate in weird/destructive ways.

I also remember there's a study on how hormonal birth control (which causes the body to perceive itself as pregnant) affects these preferences too. In some ways we really are "experimenting on production." I also think there's some hesitation to talk about that a lot and come-across as anti-choice.

But beliefs must come from the research, not vice-versa.

K0balt• 2 months ago

In the end we’re just improvements on the worm/tube plan, and we run things based on chemical soup that is mostly inside our bodies these days, but whose composition has a significant influence on our behavior. Thats why it’s great to have a neocortex, so we con at least be marginally in control of our decisions if we maintain a consistent effort to do so.

But yeah, in my empirical experience, moon phases, ovolatory cycles, hormone manipulation therapies… all have a gigantic impact on our base physiological and psychological state. I live in a place where the insects operate on a lunar phase, and the plants proactively change their operations in that rhythm to match. You can taste and see the difference in tree sap here based on the lunar phase, it becomes thicker, darker, and more bitter days in advance of the insect hatching.

Why would we think we are somehow a special exception from the web of life that created us?

arowthway• 2 months ago

I love evolutionary psychology trivia but for me it's kind of hard to meaningfully fit 0.13 standard deviation shift in preferences into my world model.

wjnc• 2 months ago

I stubbed my toe. I don’t feel like ice cream today.

hambes• 2 months ago

I am not scientist enough to judge this, so please someone enlighten me: most categories i've read through that find a shift do so with an increase of about 0.1-0.2 standard deviations. that does not sound significant to me. is that enough to make the claims this study makes?

Palomides• 2 months ago

considering this is a review aggregating a bunch of small n studies from before we acknowledged the replication crisis in psychology, I'm going with "no"

fittingopposite• 2 months ago

Statistically significant does not necessarily mean practically significant. If you just increase your sample size sufficiently, you can measure a significant effect, despite having a small magnitude of the measured effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(statistics)#:~:text=Sta...

brodo• 2 months ago

The whole field of evolutionary psychology is in a replication crisis, and there are several newer studies that did not find any evidence for any changes in 'mate preference' across the ovulatory cycle.

General sexual desire, but not desire for uncommitted sexual relationships, tracks changes in women's hormonal status https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29287282/

Meta-Analysis of Menstrual Cycle Effects on Women’s Mate Preferences https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/175407391452307...

thriei93i3i3• 2 months ago

"Replication crisis" is way too kind. The whole research field has the same credibility, as the "size does not matter" fact.

Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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