He Lost It at the Movies

https://www.theideasletter.org/essay/he-lost-it-at-the-movies/

by tintinnabula • 2 months ago

44 28 2 months ago

Papazsazsa3• 2 months ago

Interesting to see this on HN, I'd be curious to know OP's rationale, but I'm glad they posted it.

Film criticism itself has suffered greatly in recent memory; at the end of the day, whatever trouble a critic might have gone to to watch, process, and articulate their thoughts on a given film is now reduced almost entirely to a number on Rotten Tomatoes.

F7F7F7• 2 months ago

Not sure what OPs reasoning was but you have to wonder if this far-more-human type of film criticism will see a revival in the age of AI assisted writing.

I always like to remind people that before talk heads were battling it out on cable news or ESPN we had Siskel and Ebert shaking things up. They made me realize that movies could carry subtext, nuance and meaning. They made reading ABOUT movies more interesting.

TFNA• 2 months ago

Siskel and Ebert the TV show was a good example of the dumbing down of criticism; that trend started already before the internet age. The twentieth-century American television medium simply didn't allow much informational depth and nuance. (Edit: after I posted this comment, I saw that the show's Wikipedia article notes that it attracted such criticsm, so it's not just my own opinion.) Ebert's newspaper criticism was rather better.

Papazsazsa3• 2 months ago

This is a great insight. Taste is the human moat.

garrickvanburen• 2 months ago

I think Dan Olson and Folding Ideas is doing a fantastic job of bringing thoughtful criticism to all kinds of modern media, most recently Mr. Beast Games.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyNtlmLB73-7gtlBz00XOQQ

Slow_Hand2• 2 months ago

Good movie criticism is alive and well. You simply need to expand your vision beyond anyone who relies on Rotten Tomatoes or (probably) Letterbox. That's probably not it.

Youtube is a great place to start looking. It has a lot of trash, but there are some extraordinary essayists and writers giving robust and insightful looks into films new and old.

Off the top of my head:

1. House of Tabula - Essays on art and culture, with a heavy emphasis on film, old and new. https://www.youtube.com/@TheHouseofTabula/videos

2. Deep Dive - Lewis from House of Tabula doing 10-15 min reviews of recent theatrical releases: https://www.youtube.com/@DEEPDIVETHOT/videos

3. Spikima Movies https://www.youtube.com/@SpikimaMovies/videos

4. Thomas Flight https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasFlight/videos

These channels (expect for #2) all diverge from straightforward reviews, but what they give you are the tools to articulate what the film is doing, how it is doing it, and therefore equip you to become your own critic. Someone capable of thinking critically.

AlexandrB2• 2 months ago

I think a bit problem with any kind of art criticism in 2026, especially on YouTube, is audience capture. It's rare to find analysis that examines a piece as it is without dipping into some kind of political angle. A few channels try, but you get more clicks by choosing a side in the culture war and catering to those that agree with you. Once you go down this road, woe be to you if you stray from the path - your audience will turn on you in an instant.

I think this effect is worse on YouTube because YouTube creators live or die by the algorithm. There's no organization backstopping them if they publish something their audience doesn't like.

UncleOxidant• 2 months ago

I'll add Bright Wall/Dark Room: https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/

msla2• 2 months ago

The problem with "criticism" from the perspective of the average person is that "Is this film worth my time and money" isn't really a question criticism answers. The linked article touches on this when it bemoans "the consumer guide approach" but until we firmly separate criticism from reviewing we're bound to keep going around and around on this.

bandofthehawk• 2 months ago

I think that's not true for me and a lot of other people. If I read a specific criticism/review of a movie or book I often make a decision not based on good/bad but based on what the criticism is about. If a movie has slow pacing for example, I might be ok with that depending on the mood I'm in.

I'm not sure what you mean by separating review from criticism. Can you expand on that?

nradov• 2 months ago

Does film criticism even matter anymore? There used to more cost and friction associated with watching a movie and so good critics provided a useful gatekeeping service. But now with most people using streaming services (or pirating) if you don't like something it's easy to turn it off and watch something else.

Papazsazsa3• 2 months ago

I think it will matter more and more as the barrier to entry for content creation is lowered.

cptroot• 2 months ago

Film Crit Hulk continues to put out good essays on film and much more besides, over on Patreon [1]. I agree that finding good critique is hard now that we're past the heyday of magazine critique.

[1] https://www.patreon.com/filmcrithulk

drunkonvinyl• 2 months ago

reminded me of how much i loved reading this: "Lost Highways: An Illustrated History of Road Movies by Sargeant, Jack" https://www.abebooks.com/9781871592689/Lost-Highways-Illustr...

fallinditch• 2 months ago

Do film critics ever 'dial it in' without properly (or actually) watching the film?

I love Mark Kermode as a critic, normally, but for his review of Triangle of Sadness (imo a great film!) I don't think he was paying attention, or was even there.

See here https://youtu.be/ciJnhGNPS60 am I right?

-naivete-• 2 months ago

When David Lynch’s “Inland Empire” first came out, my friend invited me to come with for a screening. The film had barely started when I heard a loud snore in the empty cinema: he had fallen asleep. Woke up a couple of minutes before the credits rolled. The review was published a couple of days later - it was as good and engagingly written as it could be, and if I didn’t know, I’d never have guessed he just actually slept through it all.

hank8083• 2 months ago

"...came to widespread attention in the late 2000s..." Weird. I thought we were all living in the year 2026, which seems like the early 2000s to me. Huh...

hank8083• 2 months ago

I watched this until I saw the first down vote, 5 minutes later. Would anyone refer to the year 1909 as "the late 1900s?" Nope.

account42• 2 months ago

In 1926 or now?

Shuang1• 2 months ago

I think it's pretty obvious that we refer to more recent times like this, e.g. 2000s, 2010s, 2020s.

hank8083• 2 months ago

Nope. 2000s would refer to the century. We're still in the 2000s and still early. The Wright brothers flew the first plane in the early 1900s. Accurate. Ford introduced the Model T in the late 1900s, inaccurate. 1908 was not the late 1900s.

kelnos• 2 months ago

It's all relative. In 2110 I'm sure 2026 will be referred to as "the early 2000s". But in 2026, ~2000-2010 is "the early 2000s".

He Lost It at the Movies

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