Train Your Own LLM from Scratch

https://github.com/angelos-p/llm-from-scratch

by kristianpaul • 3 months ago

478 50 3 months ago

This looks great for a first introduction to training LLMs, and it looks simple enough to try this locally. Great job!

jvican• 3 months ago

If you're interested in this resource, I highly recommend checking out Stanford's CS336 class. It covers all this curriculum in a lot more depth, introduces you into a lot of theoretical aspects (scaling laws, intuitions) and systems thinking (kernel optimization/profiling). For this, you have to do the assignments, of course... https://cs336.stanford.edu/

the_real_cher• 3 months ago

how does one get the lectures? I don't see the option for any lectures.

eftychis• 3 months ago

https://github.com/stanford-cs336/lectures

azangru• 3 months ago

One goes to youtube and searches for cs336?

baalimago2• 3 months ago

Train your LM from scratch*

I doubt you have a machine big enough to make it "Large".

nucleardog2• 3 months ago

Hey now! I've got a half terabyte of RAM at my disposal! I mean, it's DDR4 but... it's RAM!

And it's paired with 48 processor cores! I mean, they don't even support AVX512 but they can do math!

I could totally train a LLM! Or at least my family could... might need my kid to pick up and carry on the project.

But in all seriousness... you either missed the point, are being needlessly pedantic, or are... wrong?

This is about learning concepts, and the rest of this is mostly moot.

On the pedantic or wrong notes--What is the documented cut-off for a "large" language model? Because GPT-2 was and is described as a "large" language model. It had 1.5B parameters. You can just about get a consumer GPU capable of training that for about $400 these days.

Malcolmlisk• 3 months ago

Then rewrite the title and call it "learn how to do a non usable llm from scratch"

baalimago2• 3 months ago

Yeah it's just a semantic pet peeve. Let me ask you this: What is a "Language Model", if this is a "Large Language Model"? Inversely, if a 1.5B model is "Large" then what is the recent 1T param models? "Superlarge"?

In my own very humble opinion, it becomes "Large" when it's out of non-specialized hardware. So currently, a model which requires more than 32GB vram is large (as that's roughly where the high-end gaming GPUs cut off).

And btw, there is no way you can train a language model on a CPU, even with ddr5, lest you wait a whole week for a single training cycle. Give it a go! I know I did, it's a magnitude away from being feasible.

mips_avatar2• 3 months ago

You can fully train a 1.6b model on a single 3090. That’s a reasonably big model.

electroglyph• 3 months ago

you can train it, but not fully

utopiah• 3 months ago

If you have a credit card with a "normal" ceiling you probably can rent enough on neocloud providers like HuggingFace or Mistral Forge.

I'm not saying it's worth it but you don't need to buy a GPU yourself to be able to train.

busfahrer• 3 months ago

This is the whole point of Karpathy's nanochat which OP refers to, to train a GPT-2 level LLM for under $100, renting an 8xH100 VM.

hiroakiaizawa• 3 months ago

Nice. What scale does this realistically reach on a single machine?

lynx97• 3 months ago

Model: 36L/36H/576D, 144.2M params

runs on a Blackwell 6000 Max-Q, using 86GB VRAM. Training supposedly takes 3h40m

NSUserDefaults• 3 months ago

Been doing it since the day I was born. The beginnings were hard but I’m getting there.

hliyan• 3 months ago

You've actually been primarily training a physics model, with an LLM attached to it.

falcor84• 3 months ago

Good point, and I'm actually not sure that there is a clear dividing line. I expect that once we achieve capable world models and are able to analyze their internals, we'll find that the prediction mechanisms for purely physical and for verbal/behavioral responses to the agent's actions are at least partially colocated.

As particular motivation for my intuition, I expect that we had evolutionary pressure to adapt our defense mechanisms of predicting the movements of predators and prey, to handle human opponents.

ofsen• 3 months ago

This looks like exact copy of this video of andrej karpathy ( https://youtu.be/kCc8FmEb1nY ) but in a writing format, am i wrong ?

drcongo• 3 months ago

Yes, you are.

mellosouls• 3 months ago

The page describes its relationship to nanogpt.

...nanoGPT targets reproducing GPT-2 (124M params) and covers a lot of ground. This project strips it down to the essentials and scales it to a ~10M param model that trains on a laptop in under an hour...

steveharing1• 3 months ago

The documentation is really helpful enough to get started

antirez4• 3 months ago

Context: he is one of the MLX developers, a skilled ML researcher.

thrww262• 3 months ago

Source? I think that's not correct.

antirez4• 3 months ago

Google the name of the author.

JoeDaDude• 3 months ago

Coincidentally, I just started on Build a Large Language Model (From Scratch), a repo/book/course by Sebastian Raschka [0][1][2]. Maybe it is a good problem to have to have to decide which learning resource to use.

[0] https://github.com/rasbt/LLMs-from-scratch

[1] https://www.manning.com/books/build-a-large-language-model-f...

[2] https://magazine.sebastianraschka.com/p/coding-llms-from-the...

gchadwick• 3 months ago

I really enjoyed the book. Great for people who want to understand the real nuts and bolts and have worked examples of all of the calculations.

kriro• 3 months ago

I did it back in the day when fast.ai was relatively new with ULMFiT. This must have been when Bert was sota. The architecture allows you to train a base and specialize with a head. I used the entire Wikipedia for the base and then some GBs of tweets I had collected through the firehouse. I had access to a lab with 20 game dev computers. Must have been roughly GTX 2080s. One training cycle took about half a day for the tokenized Wikipedia so I hyper parameter tuned by running one different setting on each computer and then moving on with the winner as the starting point for the next day. It was always fun to come to work the next morning and check the results.

The engineering was horrible and very ad-hoc but I learned a lot. Results were ok-ish (I classified tweets) but it gave me a good perspective on the sheer GPU power (and engineering challenges) one would need to do this seriously. I didn't fully grasp the potential of generating output but spent quite some time chuckling at generated tweets (was just curious to try it).

yjaspar• 3 months ago

That’s actually super interesting

rithdmc• 3 months ago

I know it's a bit of a joke, but "I Built a Neural Network from Scratch in SCRATCH" gave me, a complete outsider, a lot of insight into how neural networks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5COUxxTRcL0

DeathArrow• 3 months ago

I would start with linear algebra, some calculus and statistics and understand how a neural network - which really is just one type of ML - works, the learn the basics of CNN and RNN, then learn transformers and LLM.

But that is just me. I think is more useful to understand the how and whys before training a LLM.

fabian_shipamax• 3 months ago

If someone is interested, I am giving short courses with walkthrough on how to train you LLM from scratch via AI Study Camp.

y42• 3 months ago

shameless plug:

A series of Jupyter notebooks explaining the whole machine learning mechanism, from the beginning

https://github.com/nickyreinert/DeepLearning-with-PyTorch-fr...

and of course also how to build an llm from scratch

https://github.com/nickyreinert/basic-llm-with-pytorch/blob/...

Miles_Stone• 3 months ago

This is a really interesting direction. Thanks for sharing!

reviewyourai• 3 months ago

That's interesting, UI is good

yoklov• 3 months ago

I'm not sure using pytorch counts as "from scratch" anymore. I'm not saying you should avoid the stdlib or anything crazy, but at the point where you're pulling in for-purpose libraries it really doesn't seem like "from scratch" to me.

wrs• 3 months ago

Point taken, but I think to most ML folks, PyTorch basically is the stdlib.

borplk• 3 months ago

Can anyone suggest or come up with viable "use cases" of a custom LLM like this? I wouldn't mind giving it a try but ideally I'm looking for something that is not just a toy.

eiskalt• 3 months ago

A hands-on workshop where you write every piece of a GPT training pipeline yourself, understanding what each component does and why.

I see in dependencies torch, so most likely tensors and backpropagation are not implemented, but rather taken as granted. Does it count then as writing "from scratch"?..

I did something similar (in Rust, AI assisted), but I restricted myself not to use any dependency, only standard library. As result, I have to implement much more things, such as tensor design, kernels concept, simple gradient descent optimizer and even custom json parser, cpu data parallelism abstractions similar to rayon, etc. It was quite fun when I got everything wired and working - soo sloooow, but working.

Train Your Own LLM from Scratch

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