Ask HN: What signals do you look for when hiring?

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by kathir05 • 4 months ago

10 19 4 months ago

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There is good drama out there about ATS score, resumes keywords matching, AI resumes generator, formatter.

I dont know how people are coming up with such juicy and vanity metrics but mostly are noise.

• How you think • How you solve problems • How you execute ideas • The results you’ve achieved

These are the real hiring signals that actually matter, something we consistently hear from many startup founders and recruiters.

That’s why more people are showcasing their work through portfolios. And that’s what recruiters actually look for.

Hard to productize these with or without AI but still ATS drama exists

What signals do you look for when hiring? Do you still see legacy ATS score drama relevant?

rkwap• 4 months ago

I mostly look for side projects on github and past experience.

rvz• 4 months ago

A verifiable track record that is very hard to fake.

This includes:

1. Open source contributions to high-profile / major repositories (with code-review in the open with core maintainers).

2. Side projects that are production-grade with customers and recurring revenue.

3. Given presentations at conferences.

At least 2 out of 3 of those. Years of experience is an additional plus.

But those still using keyword matching, ATS scores, leetcode don't have a clue on how to hire or who to hire as all of that can be faked, gamed and cheated by LLMs in 2026.

Instead of hiring builders, they continue to optimize for people studying for interviews and at the end of the day, I only care if you know how to make money and I prefer the former; builders over those who just study for the interview.

kathir057• 4 months ago

These are valid points and it's pity that none of the hiring systems are designed for these high intent signals. Simple filters like 1. open-source in repos with stars > 100. 2. regularly write blogs on core hard topics 3. Attend or give presentations on hard topics would solve 90% of hiring process.

Rather keyword matching, ATS scores, leetcode are just vanity metrics. Do you know any tool that solves for these high intent signals?

raw_anon_11113• 4 months ago

Yes we should all spend time outside of work on computers just like doctors perform surgeries at home during their free time

raw_anon_11113• 4 months ago

I absolutely despise the idea that anyone thinks that people should spend time outside of work pecking at a computer. When I get off work, I don’t think about anything related to code until the next morning.

I have never done a line of code without getting paid for it in 30 years

icedchai• 4 months ago

I can respect that, but for many of us, computers are a hobby. That's why we got into the industry in the first place.

UK-Al05• 4 months ago

Some of the worst team developers I have ever met, are people who presented at conferences a lot. It's ego thing.

rozenmd• 4 months ago

A CV that tells me what you did, and what benefit it had to your employer.

I'm only impressed by side projects if they had users and/or MRR - something serious that proves you worked on it long enough to have something to show for your efforts

At the same time I wouldn't skip a candidate for not having a portfolio - a full time job is enough

Peroni2• 4 months ago

That’s why more people are showcasing their work through portfolios. And that’s what recruiters actually look for.

Not sure where this assumption is coming from. Most recruiters are looking for consistent work experience with reputable companies. Sure portfolios help but it's not even remotely on the same spectrum.

I dont know how people are coming up with such juicy and vanity metrics but mostly are noise.

It's really not noise at all. If you actually use these ATS platforms from the hiring side, you'll see first hand how they've all doubled down on AI filtering. Candidates are directly experiencing increased difficulty in getting past the initial screening stages.

kathir057• 4 months ago

Most recruiters are looking for consistent work experience with reputable companies.

I guess you are missing the whole startup world, talents less than 5 years into the industry and hackers who grind many side projects and Generalists Maybe what you say is relevant to SMBs and enterprise hiring. Most ATS are designed for SMBs and enterprise hiring.

I guess then Startups looking for Generalists has to mostly fallback to Google forms and HR emails for hiring.

Peroni2• 4 months ago

The startup world has been my exclusive focus for almost twenty years now so I stand by my position. Granted if you have fewer than five years of experience then it's harder to demonstrate value on a CV and that's certainly where a portfolio of work helps however your question was framed much more broadly.

lyfeninja• 4 months ago

The willingness to learn and grow is a big one for me. You always have to learn even when highly experienced but starting in a new position or industry. Additionally, critical thinking and problem solving skills along with perseverance makes a strong candidate in my eyes.

These traits show me someone is worth investing in, not just able to do a job. You'd be surprised how rare the combination is too.

kathir057• 4 months ago

These are very hardcore signals deeply buried in individuals work history. Resumes will never bring this out and so does legacy ATS. Candidate has to flexibly express his professional journey like a self bio book and then chances are good to extract these signals That why portfolios or personal websites are better at these. Hiring has to primarily happen via portfolios or personal websites.

moomoo11• 4 months ago

I like people who are enthusiastic about tech. It is pretty easy to tell when you have 60 minutes with them.

We're here to build stuff and improve continuously and if someone can't do that or seems to be the type of person who needs hand holding (they don't seem like they can even attempt to think on their own) then its not a good fit.

I think the problem recently is that SWE became way too easy. It is the easiest job right now if you can grind out a couple months you can make 400k plus easily. If you can't or find a way to make excuses about why you can't yngmi and I'm not interested in speaking with you.

But if you agree with that sentiment, then you know the game is rigged and gamed. So it is now important to sniff out the fakers. So many people can memorize LC, and then you throw a small twist and their brain which they've turned into a nvme drive to memorize and fast lookup shit crashes because their brain is basically a dual core and 4gb ram with a ton of storage of shit.

I'd rather take the person who's got a workstation and can do shit, instead of the person who maxxed out storage.

kathir057• 4 months ago

What I see is, whether your mental model is wired for resilience. Programming is basically math with logical reasoning. Having this basic skill is must. I always go for these fundamentals rather that heavy vibe coding.

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