Steve Job's Yacht - Venus

http://mashable.com/2012/10/28/steve-jobs-yacht-revealed/

by gorans • 14 years ago

38 46 14 years ago

jerrya• 14 years ago

I would like someone to confirm that is Steve Job's Yacht and that he was involved in the design process.

That yacht seems the antithesis of a Jobsian yacht.

Ostentatious. Gaudy. A landlubber's office complex on water. Features and design that would make it difficult to handle on water.

Dysfunction follows form.

gorans• 14 years ago

It does look like more like a building than a yacht

freejack• 14 years ago

I had a similar emotional reaction to the boat. I don't know the first thing about yacht design so I'm really out on a limb here, and I don't think I would go so far as to say "ostentatious" or "gaudy" although there were a few things that seemed a bit out of place to me. The shiny bow, the boxiness of the rear decks, the symmetry of the roof lines - none seemed really consistent with what I would have expected. Of course I don't know what I was expecting, just that this didn't feel right. Even the name feels a bit off. I imagine that this is someone's boat, and I'm not totally convinced that this one belongs to the Jobs'.

dagw2• 14 years ago

Dysfunction follows form.

You're assuming the primary function of a yacht is to travel quickly and gracefully through a wide variety of waters. While some hold that view, other believe the primary function of yacht is to be an awesome office, apartment and party space that can be moved between the St. Tropez and Monaco harbors. This boat seems to fulfill latter function perfectly.

jd• 14 years ago

In comparison to other yachts (E.g. http://list25.com/25-most-expensive-yachts-ever-built/) "Venus" looks pretty minimalist to me.

dorian-graph• 14 years ago

Isaacson spoke with Jobs about it and it's detailed in his biography.

tapan_pandita• 14 years ago

Slow news day apparently ...

earnubs• 14 years ago

The upper section, is that an iPad mini stacked on an iPad?

breckenedge• 14 years ago

I'd have to be a first-gen iPad with the rounded back. Top kinda looks like a Mac Mini from the front, but that diminishes in the other views.

zalew4• 14 years ago

#12 7 points by gorans 2 hours ago

#13 141 points by Pwnguinz 15 hours ago

how does it work?

lloeki• 14 years ago

Read yourself again, you wrote it. Hint: It's not a sort on points.

zalew4• 14 years ago

I know it's not a sort of points, I'm just surprised how a post with only 5 upvotes through over 2 hours can land so high on the homepage.

gus_massa• 14 years ago

Originally the formula was: (points-1)/(hours+2)^1.4 , but pg changes it whenever he wants, so the "gravity coefficient" is now different from 1.4.

You can read detailed analysis of the (published) formula in 2009 in http://www.arcfn.com/2009/06/how-does-newsyc-ranking-work.ht...

And there are a lot of secret coefficient corrections, for example the number of flagging that the submission received and the number of comments (if it has too many comments, it is too polemic and it is pushed down.)

If we use the 2009 formula we get

  Points(P)  Time(H)  (P-1)^.8/(H+2)^1.8
        7        2        0.3457
      141       15        0.3177

that gives the ordering you saw.

zalew4• 14 years ago

tx!

"if it has too many comments, it is too polemic and it is pushed down." well, this is surprising.

snogglethorpe2• 14 years ago

The funny thing is that the sum seems less than the parts here—nothing looks really all that bad in isolation[+], but as a whole it's awkward and unbalanced, looking like unrelated pieces sort of crammed together as an afterthought. Utterly without grace.

I wonder what Apple's industrial designers think about it...

[+] Aesthetically, mind you; judging from comments on other sites, the hull shape is not so good for an ocean-going vessel...

indiecore• 14 years ago

So you're saying that it's an aesthetically pleasing piece of work that while functional isn't the absolute best you can get? Sounds like Apple products to me. (I wonder if this'll kick off a big yacht buying trend?)

snogglethorpe2• 14 years ago

No; please read what I wrote again.

Aardwolf• 14 years ago

It looks like something I'd accept if it were given to me as a gift, but to me personally wouldn't be worth the purchase with my money.

The front looks a bit weird.

joezydeco4• 14 years ago

So the Dutch shipyard crew finishes an 8 or 9 figure yacht (that you know had to be not as easy as a regular 8 or 9 figure yacht) and they get handed a $25 iPod and a thank you note written in English?

That kind of came off as tacky. Or a fitting summary of Jobs' career.

dpcx• 14 years ago

Except that, these employees were paid by the manufacturer of the yacht company. The Jobs' didn't have to give them anything. A thank you note was already above. The iPod was beyond.

dagw2• 14 years ago

Paradoxically giving a cheap gift often makes you appear stingier than giving no gift.

aidos• 14 years ago

Or...maybe they got paid as usual and enjoyed working on an very interesting and challenging project.

LoonyPandora• 14 years ago

Incidentally 86% of Dutch people speak English, from my experience that is higher in coastal / docklands areas. Also an iPod shuffle is $49. I thought it was a nice gesture.

joezydeco4• 14 years ago

You don't think the Jobs family gets a company discount on iPods? C'mon.

kyro• 14 years ago

Or you made an incredibly stupid leap of logic and forgot to consider the fact that these guys most likely are employed by a company that compensated them for their work throughout the months or years that it took to build the ship.

Think of it like you bringing out food and drinks for construction workers fixing your roof.

joezydeco4• 14 years ago

If you were fixing the roof of a $100,000,000 mansion and the owner comes out at lunch time and hands you a warm can of Wal-Mart Cola, what would you think? See dagw's comment above.

nicholassmith• 14 years ago

It's easy to go "A cheap iPod Shuffle? Come on.", but it's not about getting the gift it's about getting the memento of the work that was done.

Plus that iPod Shuffle is probably now worth about 20 iPod Shuffles.

podperson• 14 years ago

Speaking as a longtime Apple user, Steve Jobs fan, blah blah -- that is one butt ugly boat (it's hard to imagine Steve Jobs signing off on the chrome bit), and an iPod Shuffle as a gift does seem kind of lame. Surely an iPod Nano at least.

(Heh, maybe it would have been a nano if they'd figured out how to get rid of the chrome thing.)

spdy• 14 years ago

Its a gift of gratitude. They came over and acknowledged the work of the persons who build this boat. They could have sent someone to pick it up.

How would you feel when you finish a multi-year multi-million project for a client and they would send someone over to thank you for everything and even handing out some gift. (this rarely happens in our industry)

As it does matter how much they paid for it the company made a lot of money of this, so did the worker. And you dont sell Yachts like hotdogs on the street. From your comment i would suspect they had to come and hand over 10k+$/person for doing their day job?

xradionut• 14 years ago

As a Navy vet and a technical guy, I wouldn't mind seeing the actual specs on this beast. As a sailor, I'd rather crew on a ship designed more for performance than luxury.

deadsy• 14 years ago

Not an expert, but I'd be worried about those hull windows around the bow getting broken as you plowed through waves. Maybe the boat is more of an Apple III than an iPhone.

VBprogrammer• 14 years ago

I think it probably says something about my eye for design that I prefer the megayachts which look more like cross-channel ferries (Le Grand Bleu and Octopus) than the god awful fibreglass gin palaces.

zalew4• 14 years ago

I prefer powerboats, but the Abramovich's megayacht was awesome. afair aside of heli landings it had a powerboat inside and anti-missile protection. this Jobs' one looks like an ugly office building.

timc3• 14 years ago

That is quite the eyesore, with a complete lack of any emotion or inspiration and it has what looks like an Apple store inside.

jasonkolb• 14 years ago

I think his love of minimalist Bauhaus design really shines through here. Not my cup of tea, but then I like furniture in my house, too :)

I remember reading his bio and wondering what this looked like--apparently it was his last big personal project that he was trying to get done before he died. It looks very Jobs-ian to me, kind of like a Star Trek spaceship landed in the water.

orenmazor• 14 years ago

boat aside, I'd love to see more about the instrumentation on the bridge with those imacs…

BenoitEssiambre• 14 years ago

Am I the only one who sees this?:

http://imgur.com/jdEEx

backprojection• 14 years ago

I don't really care; people can do whatever they want with their money, _obviously_. But I am kind of surprised Jobs owned/commissioned a yacht. I always figured owning a yacht was an abject status symbol, and that somehow Jobs tried to be 'above' these things. meh

JanezStupar• 14 years ago

To me it looks like an Imperial Star Destroyer.

Steve Job's Yacht - Venus

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