Musk Seeks Up to $134B Damages from OpenAI, Microsoft

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-17/musk-seeks-up-to-134-billion-damages-from-openai-microsoft

by SanjayMehta • 6 months ago

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rand846633• 6 months ago

If you are confident that you can reach arbitrary judgments in about 1% of all cases, maybe via corruption, political influence or just random arbitrariness of court decisions, would this mean the expected value of this suit is approximately 1.3B usd minus ~10m legal fees?

fakedang• 6 months ago

Yes and in this case, it's not even that much an arbitrary judgement. I don't like the man but Musk has far more standing to go against Microsoft and OpenAI because the shenanigans they pulled were just that much more brazen.

otterley• 6 months ago

IAAL (not legal advice) and find your comment confusing: first, because standing is a question of whether you can even have your complaint heard by a court; and second, because “brazenness” doesn’t necessarily make a case stronger.

jondwillis• 6 months ago

Well there’s potential counter suit or court order to pay legal fees of the other party that might affect the profitability. I am not a lawyer

nutjob2• 6 months ago

No because penalty amounts are routinely slashed to a tiny fraction of the original claim.

refurb• 6 months ago

Expected value calculations are terrible unless applied to a situation of hundreds or thousands of outcomes.

Otherwise you be stupid NOT to buy a lottery ticket each week.

moralestapia• 6 months ago

The expected value of a lottery ticket is lower than its nominal value, for obvious reasons.

I agree with your point, though.

KellyCriterion• 6 months ago

Well, the US legal system is that broken, I see him with high chances of winning, somehow? (like "we give you 50% of what you are asking for but shut up now")

exikyut• 6 months ago

https://archive.is/aokho

tim333• 6 months ago

Altman's tweet on the subject seems to present some factual difficulties for Musk https://x.com/sama/status/2012271781394989327

scrubs• 6 months ago

For comparison purposes, the defendants should argue the valuation is what it is because musk is not in it. Consequently at worst it's a few millions.

Musk Seeks Up to $134B Damages from OpenAI, Microsoft

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